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15th May 2014, 21:08
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diesel rad conversion
anyone got any links and info to the diesel rad or any rad with remote header conversion
mainly need the info of where the pipes in the circuit go and if you need the plastic fitting from the back of the block where the rad pipes go
i know one return line comes straight from the rad to the top of the header... one looks as though it goes to the stat housing..the main return looks like it goes to the rear suggesting id need the plastic splitter from the diesel block for the extra pipe?
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15th May 2014, 21:40
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I cant really remember much how mine is but ive got a small pipe going to top of the radiator on o/s. Other going to the rear into a Y piece into original hose that has the bleed valve on.
Hope this helps lol
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15th May 2014, 21:47
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just been talking to gav.. way he does it the lower header tank return should be T'd into the lower rad hose to put the water back into the circuit and the over flow from the top of the rad goes back to the top of the header..so that sounds like all i should need and is alot easier then replacing the pipe of the back of the block!
cheers matey
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15th May 2014, 21:48
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ill whack some pics in here to help others when i get 5 as i couldnt find anything on here about it
most stuff on here is archived these days...takes the piss looking for stuff haha
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15th May 2014, 21:56
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Ye mines into the smaller pipe from the back of the block. Obv the plastic pipe on the block both hoses go into same hole. I got my header tanlk, pipes and rad from danny so just got it setup same as he had.
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15th May 2014, 22:03
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i think ill probs use that pipe tbh as itll be te same diameter as the one on the header tank
just need to get a header tank now lol
and a new rad... migt aswel buy a diesel 106 for spares tbh
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15th May 2014, 22:36
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I just bunged the diesel rad in my AX, and ran a pipe from the upper bleed outlet to a Ford Ka header tank. Ran fine for lots of miles and with hard driving, no issues.
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15th May 2014, 22:41
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cheers mate..im seeing what ive got in the unit i think ive got a c2 GT one. be a piece of piss now i know i dont need the bit off the diesel block
just ordered a new diesel rad as the one i got from the scrappy to mock stuff up is a piece of shit
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15th May 2014, 22:44
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I worried initially about having the extra piping and shit but have seen other cars run an almost identical setup to the way I had mine - 207 thp for one - and its just an expansion/bleed point to be honest.
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15th May 2014, 22:47
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I worried initially about having the extra piping and shit but have seen other cars run an almost identical setup to the way I had mine - 207 thp for one - and its just an expansion/bleed point to be honest.
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basically it. im alot happier now i know itll work the way i was hoping it would. so i can just use any header i find now and save a few ££
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15th May 2014, 23:05
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Should do dude, the core was pretty much identical to a VTS rad, just with the header/neck chopped off. Fuck it, itll be alreet!
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15th May 2014, 23:12
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yeah theyre not much diff like
just bought one of these..same type as the late vtr vts ones fitted from 02 onwards...with the better/stronger fins and better cooling
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/171171361632
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15th May 2014, 23:17
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Good price that!
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15th May 2014, 23:24
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thats what i thought too
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15th May 2014, 23:26
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Blackie, fancy making a guide as I'm looking into improving my cooling system etc in my new build. Cheers
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15th May 2014, 23:30
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theres no real improvement mate tbh...if you havent already got one..go for the later "ordinez" radiator found on the 02 on vtr or vts
im just fitting as ive no choice..the xsi bay is tiny and the saxo rad just wont fit with the turbo bits as the header neck is in the way
but ill whack a guide up none the less
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15th May 2014, 23:34
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Oh okay, fair play and I don't have a rad ATM as just building a spare shell I have for a little track fun. What rad would you suggest? Don't mind spending a fair amount upto 100 is doable, if you got time I have a thread about an engine issue if you could give me some feedback I'd appreciate it.
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16th May 2014, 20:49
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whats the spec of the engine? a decent new oe on like i mentioned above should be fine for most specs.
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16th May 2014, 21:07
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whats the spec of the engine? a decent new oe on like i mentioned above should be fine for most specs.
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Well I'm now going 16v but there will be cams etc added in the near future!
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16th May 2014, 21:20
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How I did mine
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