will a C2 VTS engine fit into a saxo vts? - Saxperience

FisherVTS · 1st October 2009, 22:46

Hi everyone

i was just wondering can you fit a C2 vts engine into a saxo vts?

Ryan^p · 1st October 2009, 23:00

its not a simple bolt in job no but it can be done, and you need saxo parts still.

You use the saxo ecu and loom, tap the head and use the J4 inlet manifold, also use the saxo sump and a few other bits

jeffchiz · 2nd October 2009, 00:30

i thought that its a straight swap

maybe not then lol

TU-Tuning · 2nd October 2009, 00:56

Also the bottom end on the C2 lump is shite.

I can build and if required fit the perfect 16v base for tuning, a C2 head on a Saxo/106 bottom end, and replace as many seals, gaskets, rings etc and fit whatever you want along the way such as uprated cams. PM me if interested

Ryan^p · 2nd October 2009, 11:04

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Originally Posted by jeffchiz

i thought that its a straight swap

maybe not then lol

lol not a chance.

sliderz · 2nd October 2009, 11:18

loads different wont fit engine mounts are different and probably loads more not to clued up on this but no engine mounts need sorting

rushy_23 · 2nd October 2009, 11:22

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Originally Posted by Ryan

its not a simple bolt in job no but it can be done, and you need saxo parts still.

You use the saxo ecu and loom, tap the head and use the J4 inlet manifold, also use the saxo sump and a few other bits

Couldnt you juse use the JP4 inlet and sump if its the complete engine Ryan?

bensvarups · 2nd October 2009, 11:23

Yes it can definately be done, my brother has a throttle bodied C2 VTS engine in his 106 GTI

ryan_g86 · 2nd October 2009, 13:34

I'm just curious as to why the c2/jp4 bottom
ends are shite compared to j4. Anybody know? Cheers

Ryan^p · 2nd October 2009, 19:05

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Originally Posted by rushy_23

Couldnt you juse use the JP4 inlet and sump if its the complete engine Ryan?

If you want to convert the throttle set up, and have a manifold which doesnt link up with the exhaust.

TU-Tuning · 2nd October 2009, 19:09

Aye the Jp4 sump is massive and weak as fuck too somehow. And electric throttles are gayyyy

Ryan_g86, the pistons are domed and dont have valve cutouts so your limited on how high lift the camshafts you fit are (J4 ones have cutouts and are supposedly stronger too although I cant verify that part myself). The rods are also thinner and weaker and arent fully floating like J4 ones are.

rushy_23 · 3rd October 2009, 01:06

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Originally Posted by Ryan

If you want to convert the throttle set up, and have a manifold which doesnt link up with the exhaust.

What does the "inlet manifold" have to do with the exhaust Ry?

Reread your first post. Maybe Ive misread..

TU-Tuning · 3rd October 2009, 01:16

Hes on about the fact the exhaust mani is a lot longer/deeper, as is the sump, so basically the C2 exhaust mani will be scraping along the floor attached to nothing.

Hence the J4 mani and J4 sump

rushy_23 · 3rd October 2009, 01:17

I see. Original post mentioned inlet manifold.

Never mind. Carry on lol..

TU-Tuning · 3rd October 2009, 01:19

lol its all gravy. You thinking of going JP4?

rushy_23 · 3rd October 2009, 01:22

Nope. Not much point in my position. Happy with my J4 as is it. Well if the covers stop leaking

Ryan^p · 3rd October 2009, 14:22

rushy you mong

I didnt mention the word inlet in the post regarding the sump