Group N engine mounts - Saxperience

maddison_vts · 18th October 2009, 13:43

whats the benefit?
the only thing i ever noticed was the car just vibrates your nuts off, and irritates you on a long journey!

is it needed for a big power saxo?

AndySAXO^p · 18th October 2009, 15:01

they wil help keep the engine more staible under hard throttle, also round conrers,

we get more out of them on the track when pushing the car alot hard than on the road though,

andy

Mochachino · 18th October 2009, 15:20

They were a huge benifit on my old car. Made the car feel better built and tighter. Going over bumps you can really tell the difference. If u imagine a plastic bag full of shopping on your bikes handle bar swinging thats what the engines like, but put a Grp N engine mount on and it prevents it from swinging etc.

Sparco_Tom · 18th October 2009, 17:37

brilliant explanation with the bag.

only thing i find is nuts and bolts like to wiggle lose over time

AndySAXO^p · 18th October 2009, 19:01

lock tight them

yer that could happen as there alot more vibration, but always pro and con to everything!!

andy

AlexB^p · 18th October 2009, 19:06

Group n is for girls tbh

group a going on my car shortly

Olly · 18th October 2009, 20:35

lolz. Alloy is the way forward tbh.

If the mount you replace is worn, youll feel a hell of a lot of difference!

andyt81 · 18th October 2009, 21:27

whats the difference between group a and n
or am i being stupid?

AlexB^p · 18th October 2009, 21:40

Group n is harder rubber
group a is aluminium

want some proper torque linked ones for my gti tbh

ryanmt · 19th October 2009, 00:19

problem with solid mounts is the give has to go somewhere. Seen one rip the top of the gearbox off. Oops

AlexB^p · 19th October 2009, 00:21

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Originally Posted by ryanmt

problem with solid mounts is the give has to go somewhere. Seen one rip the top of the gearbox off. Oops

hence the semi rigid group as
there group n uppers so give but the lower its the rear bush in the fork that gives so they dont rip your car apart

TU-Tuning · 19th October 2009, 00:24

Ive got Grp Ns all round, one of the best things Ive done to it. Makes the car so much more accurate around corners, its hard to describe but it just feels really solid to drive. Fook running a solid mount on the lower bush though thats asking for trouble on a road car, just imo lol

Mochachino · 19th October 2009, 00:30

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Originally Posted by Ben_Saxo

Ive got Grp Ns all round, one of the best things Ive done to it. Makes the car so much more accurate around corners, its hard to describe but it just feels really solid to drive. Fook running a solid mount on the lower bush though thats asking for trouble on a road car, just imo lol

It aint bad u know! Ive been running a Grp A fully rigid one for a few months now. I think the fact i didnt replace the top mounts at the same time contributed to my top mounts going aswell though. As said with the solid lower the give has to go elsewhere, and i think the give has been my ECU mount

AlexB^p · 19th October 2009, 00:34

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Originally Posted by db_sax

It aint bad u know! Ive been running a Grp A fully rigid one for a few months now. I think the fact i didnt replace the top mounts at the same time contributed to my top mounts going aswell though. As said with the solid lower the give has to go elsewhere, and i think the give has been my ECU mount

you running the semi rigid or the torque link setup?

Mochachino · 19th October 2009, 00:40

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Originally Posted by AlexB

you running the semi rigid or the torque link setup?

Just the lower mate is Grp A Solid. Gonna run Grp N ECU and Battery. Was a good setup on the ol' westie so gonna do the same on teh 'R, as i obviously dont get the full benifit from the lower with the shagged OE upper mounts which is a daft set up anyway.

AlexB^p · 19th October 2009, 01:54

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Originally Posted by db_sax

Just the lower mate is Grp A Solid. Gonna run Grp N ECU and Battery. Was a good setup on the ol' westie so gonna do the same on teh 'R, as i obviously dont get the full benifit from the lower with the shagged OE upper mounts which is a daft set up anyway.

so a semi rigid kit then basically

Steve · 19th October 2009, 12:25

one of the best mods i ever did was fit group N mounts.

Well the lower and upper gearbox mounts.

Dagger · 20th October 2009, 23:41

if you fit a set of Group N Spoox Motorsport you will see a massive improvement in many ways.

for a start the engine stays where its meant to be:

1) giving you a much more steady cornering ability
2) application of throttle is quicker (basically the engine does not move before turning the drive shaft)
3) you can throttle off at high revs at high speed without the inertia throwing the weight of the car off balance.
4) less movement to affect drives shafts (i.e. less damage caused)
5) generally a much better drive, low or high speed

the spoox mounts ECU, Battery & Gearbox set was possibly the best enhancement to the application of throttle and handling at high speed i have managed to achieve.

downside... vibrations..... but the issue is minimal imo! in fact it makes yu feel the benifit knowing you have installed these parts.

however... never had Group A mounts so cant really comment on those... sorry!