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4th August 2010, 17:58
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Saxo doesn't pop
Hi guys, just bought my first saxo. Its a 2002 VTR. She has a supersprint manifold and a full magnex system. I wouldn't mind the odd pop or bang now and again, but I haven't heard anything of such! Is the cat in the standard mani or what way does it work on these?
Thanks
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4th August 2010, 18:17
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Location: Wirral
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Hiya mate.
The cat in a Vtr is in the manifold.
As I understand it, Saxo's that pop are down to an overfueling problem. But it's usually left because it sounds good.
If you get it mapped, the ecu can be configured to make it pop.
Kev
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4th August 2010, 18:42
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Saxperience Post Whore
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Location: North Wales
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Car(s): Fabia VRS PD130/ VTR Mk2
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RAFkev
Hiya mate.
The cat in a Vtr is in the manifold.
As I understand it, Saxo's that pop are down to an overfueling problem. But it's usually left because it sounds good.
If you get it mapped, the ecu can be configured to make it pop.
Kev
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Mk1 is under car
Mk2 is in mani
does the magnex centerpipe have a silencer??
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4th August 2010, 18:47
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sams_VTR
Mk1 is under car
Mk2 is in mani
does the magnex centerpipe have a silencer??
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2002 = mk2 sam!
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4th August 2010, 18:53
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#5
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Saxperience Forum Bum
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Sawtry
Posts: 3,456
Car(s): Saxo VTS
Saxo VTR
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if he's said its got a supersprint manifold, then it won't have a CAT on it??
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4th August 2010, 18:54
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Location: peterborough
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Car(s): dead vtr :(
now 16v vtr ;)
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flaming is down to over fuelling, popping is from the back pressure or something along those lines i beleive.. with a full straight through system should ge a few pops and bangs..
get a supersprint race section and 2" backox, had that on my vtr with supersprit mani, and it sounded awesome and popped and banged loads
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4th August 2010, 18:59
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#7
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Saxperience Forum Bum
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Sawtry
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Car(s): Saxo VTS
Saxo VTR
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i agree with jamie, supersprint centre pipe is needed, i have one on my VTS with a piper backbox and that pops and bangs like no tomorrow as stokesy can confirm
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4th August 2010, 19:06
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Hmmm
Maybe it's just a supersprint thing.
I have straight through magnex and get no popping.
The guy who mapped my car said he can make it pop by tweaking the map. Can't remember why or how though.
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4th August 2010, 19:24
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Car(s): MK2 Saxo VTR 51 PLATE
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On my VTR I have standard mani magnex decat and cat back it's reali quiet and when going flat in 3rd then changing to second it makes a lil pop. Nothing big just a noticeable one
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4th August 2010, 19:47
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Saxperience Forum Bum
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Location: peterborough
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Car(s): dead vtr :(
now 16v vtr ;)
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maybe its the magnex.. most othr systems seem to pop no problem..
and as lee said above, his superspriint mani and race section with the piper backbox pops and bangs like mad.. soudnd aweosme
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4th August 2010, 19:48
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RAFkev
2002 = mk2 sam! 
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Fair enough, i miss read it
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4th August 2010, 19:58
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mine pops now and then sounds nice though  got vtr manifold on and a savage backbox on a 1.1
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4th August 2010, 20:03
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mark 1 vts
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Ive Got a btb 4-1 mani and a full btb 2.5" system, not heard any pops out of it, mabie im not driving it right lol
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4th August 2010, 20:44
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Get a few pops and bangs on mine when I change down and its around 2k revs. Thats with Longlife cat back system and standard manifold.
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4th August 2010, 22:00
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Newbie
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God knows, must just be magnex for ya lol! Can you map the standard ecu on saxo's or is it a new ecu needed ?
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4th August 2010, 22:09
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Magnex are supposed to be quiet until you open the taps up anyway, a full 2" supersprint would make it pop like a mad man.
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4th August 2010, 22:12
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Location: pboro
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Car(s): Saxo 1.4 furio
Now Saxo 1.6 VTR
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how long has the full exhaust system been on for?
mine started popping after a few weeks and now pops all the time
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4th August 2010, 22:13
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Saxperience Post Whore
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I had a VTR with Supersprint mani and Magnex single box system - no pops or bangs. Whack a Piper or Supersprint exhaust on and it probably will.
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4th August 2010, 22:17
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#19
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remap the standard ecu will be completely pointless and waste of money for just an exhaust system to try and get it to pop, tbf itd probs decrease the chance of it popping..
imo sell up and get a new system
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4th August 2010, 22:18
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My magnex only pops when you blip the throttle at high RPM, and when upshifting.
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