Networking Guru's - Saxperience

Brettles1986 · 6th June 2014, 13:27

I have just had BT Infinity installed at our office. Since the install I have been unable to successfully connect to our FTP server first time. If I continue to try a few times it eventually works. It errors out with 200 Type set A. 227 Entering Passive Mode.

I have add DNS forward lookup zones on the server that point to BT's DNS servers. All firewall rules are set to allow ports 20 and 21 in both directions.

Anyone able to shed any light on this.

Everything was fine on the old router which had the same setup.

0rang3peel · 6th June 2014, 13:39

I'm unsure on the infinity equipment, but is it possible to put the infinity router in modem only mode and then plug in your old router?

Any DMZ settings on the infinity that could be causing shit?

Brettles1986 · 6th June 2014, 13:45

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Originally Posted by 0rang3peel

I'm unsure on the infinity equipment, but is it possible to put the infinity router in modem only mode and then plug in your old router?

Any DMZ settings on the infinity that could be causing shit?

I was thinking of trying putting the router in DMZ but it has this stupid setting which means you can only set it to an IP address of a device that the router has picked up with no manual way of adding devices.

I am using the server for DHCP and not the router so it doesn't pick any devices up.

0rang3peel · 6th June 2014, 13:47

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Originally Posted by Brettles1986

I was thinking of trying putting the router in DMZ but it has this stupid setting which means you can only set it to an IP address of a device that the router has picked up with no manual way of adding devices.

I am using the server for DHCP and not the router so it doesn't pick any devices up.

Ahh poop, yeah thought you may have overlooked the simple option of modem only mode.

That's an infuriating setting, DMZ is what I would have tried too.

I'm out of ideas already

chompy · 6th June 2014, 13:53

I had the exact same problem with an infinity router at one point. They are a fucking nightmare to configure. In the end i gave up and just used another router with PPPOE (Draytek 2830) and everything worked fine.

Also, it's worth checking with BT that they have put you on a business line and not a home infinity connection.

Brettles1986 · 6th June 2014, 13:55

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Originally Posted by chompy

I had the exact same problem with an infinity router at one point. They are a fucking nightmare to configure. In the end i gave up and just used another router with PPPOE (Draytek 2830) and everything worked fine.

Also, it's worth checking with BT that they have put you on a business line and not a home infinity connection.

We are definitely on a business line. May well end up installing the old router again on Monday. Why do they make it so difficult to do the simplest of things.

MuZiZZle · 6th June 2014, 13:59

IT should be easy, providing the FTP server is on?

Try the shields up site to make sure the ports are open to the outside world.

The only issue I had was WOL because as you say it bins the ARP cache after 5 minutes, fucking thing

Brettles1986 · 6th June 2014, 14:02

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Originally Posted by MuZiZZle

IT should be easy, providing the FTP server is on?

Try the shields up site to make sure the ports are open to the outside world.

The only issue I had was WOL because as you say it bins the ARP cache after 5 minutes, fucking thing

Already done that.

Results are as expected.

chompy · 6th June 2014, 14:18

Get the old router back in.

Brettles1986 · 6th June 2014, 14:25

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Originally Posted by chompy

Get the old router back in.

Shall be, it just feels like a real defeatist attitude to things. Sometimes I guess it's just not meant to be with particular hardware.

Kebabman · 6th June 2014, 14:29

Are you attempting to connect to the FTP using active or passive mode? I would guess active from the error message as it seems to then fall back to passive mode. Might be worth switching the mode and see if that helps.

Brettles1986 · 6th June 2014, 14:33

Already tried that. The problem with that is that it needs to be set on client side as well and there are quite a few people who need this FTP access.

As said it will connect eventually but only after a few attempts which is no good when connection remote printers to it for scanning purposes as they fail first time.

chompy · 6th June 2014, 14:58

By the sounds of it you shouldn't really be trying to run a BT infinity router anyway and should have a more business orientated solution like your old router.

They are really not meant for anything other than home use, so it's not really a defeatist attitude, more getting a solution that works.

Brettles1986 · 6th June 2014, 15:00

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Originally Posted by chompy

By the sounds of it you shouldn't really be trying to run a BT infinity router anyway and should have a more orientated solution.

They are really not meant for anything other than home use.

I do have a 3com router that I took out when the new system was installed. Will be putting it back on Monday. I have only been using the BT one just to see if it's up to the job, I had assumed with it being a Business package the router would have been adequate.

Live and learn.

chompy · 6th June 2014, 15:24

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Originally Posted by Brettles1986

I do have a 3com router that I took out when the new system was installed. Will be putting it back on Monday. I have only been using the BT one just to see if it's up to the job, I had assumed with it being a Business package the router would have been adequate.

Live and learn.

3com? that's even worse

unfortunately not, the only real business style kit you get is if you order a leased line or a managed service (not just from BT of course). Even then, you still want your own router behind it to configure it the way you want.

Brettles1986 · 6th June 2014, 15:35

Yeah maybe now is the time to mention I work for a smallbusiness with a massive reluctance to spend any money.

We have an ancient phone system that they won't replace and when proposing a new system their response was "we will deal with it when it goes wrong"... massively pro-active considering it's a pretty critical service.

chompy · 6th June 2014, 16:33

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Originally Posted by Brettles1986

Yeah maybe now is the time to mention I work for a smallbusiness with a massive reluctance to spend any money.

We have an ancient phone system that they won't replace and when proposing a new system their response was "we will deal with it when it goes wrong"... massively pro-active considering it's a pretty critical service.

I do SME support & sales so i know how you feel