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20th February 2012, 21:16
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tren bomb
have a couple of mate who have been on this stuff and made massive gains and remained ripped up. slight acne but nothing to major. read alot about it online and alot of people on the bodybuilding forums say its shit but is that its shit compared to proper steroids. the write up say you need to cycle it like a proper steroid aswell as taking milk thistle and a pct which leads me to think it is a proper steroid. would like some more info
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20th February 2012, 21:42
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I know very little and you can say my post is pointless but from what I've heard about them in the gym, you would be better of going on a propper steroid cycle. I know they are very very liver toxic. I believe they are a pro hormone. A quick google brings up plenty of results mate, probably be better having a read on the bodybuilding forums. Sorry to be little help lol
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21st February 2012, 00:49
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I think how they get around the law is because they turn into an anabolic steroid IN the body. In tablet form they are not. But they are still very liver toxic.
So its probs cheaper and less harmful to just take regular AAS.
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21st February 2012, 11:39
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I think how they get around the law is because they turn into an anabolic steroid IN the body. In tablet form they are not. But they are still very liver toxic.
So its probs cheaper and less harmful to just take regular AAS.
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That is true, they aren't anabolic until in the body. I imagine a dianabol cycle would work out cheaper. Although they are still liver toxic.
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basically you got a sti and if you dont get it seen too then you dick turns out to be a pickle then falls into a jar of vinegar
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As long as it doesnt end up the colour of your car I know I will be cool 
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21st February 2012, 15:40
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^ From what I've read it isn't much worse on the liver than having 1 or 2 seriously heavy drinking sessions a week. I Haven't delved that deep into it though so might be wrong, but whichever way you put it they are both liver toxic.
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21st February 2012, 21:49
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^ From what I've read it isn't much worse on the liver than having 1 or 2 seriously heavy drinking sessions a week. I Haven't delved that deep into it though so might be wrong, but whichever way you put it they are both liver toxic.
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Interesting. The way people bang on about them being liver toxic I automatically assumed that they were the equivalent to heavy sessions every time you took them. I'm intrigued now, gonna go do some research (Y)
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basically you got a sti and if you dont get it seen too then you dick turns out to be a pickle then falls into a jar of vinegar
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Originally Posted by rushy_23
As long as it doesnt end up the colour of your car I know I will be cool 
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25th March 2012, 19:40
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i would stay away from these at all cost, i " experiemented" with these for 4 weeks. Did everything perfect, used clomid for pct along with t booster and an adt. Yes they were good, made good gains. put on about 7kg in total, strength on all muscles increased. However with this came injuries to my knee an both shoulders (which still effect me even with psysio) and serious "back pump" pains that stopped me from doing any cardio over 5 minutes. Further to this a friend of mine got the dreaded gyno from it over a month after he finshed pct. This stuff is "designer steriods" and definatley NOT worth it. If you do go on it i would recommend not increasing weight much but increasing reps. I increased weight greatly on all lifts for a 5 rep max idea. Too much weight caused my injuries, muscles may be able to shift the weight but ligaments cannot!
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