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24th December 2010, 15:23
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MK1 VTS gsxr itb's/Newman ph3's/predator ECU/ Buckets/ And light weight!
Right so some of you may have seen my liquid yellow furio wich is soon going to be up for sale and my mk1 posi blue vts is going to be the next project 
I've got a Sandy/Colin GSXR throttle bodied set-up, newman ph3's, predator ecu, light weight is now the key!
Only got the one picture at the moment:
Last edited by _Jon_; 15th April 2011 at 20:07.
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24th December 2010, 23:03
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Location: Barry
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Car(s): Mk2 Posi Blue Flatarch
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nice car, i like standard tail lights smoked like tha 
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25th December 2010, 11:04
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Saxperience Forum Bum
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Stranraer
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Car(s): bodied VTR
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anything bigger than a ph3 cam needs the pistons pocketed for clearance irc I'm sure a few people on here are getting about 160ish bhp from ph3's and itb's
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25th December 2010, 20:50
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Originally Posted by SaxbyPK
nice car, i like standard tail lights smoked like tha |
thanks mate, yeah think im going to do one of my standard set the same as these have been done badly 
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25th December 2010, 20:53
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Originally Posted by -shuggles-
anything bigger than a ph3 cam needs the pistons pocketed for clearance irc I'm sure a few people on here are getting about 160ish bhp from ph3's and itb's |
yeah Im up for going the hole hog and changing pistons, com rods the lot if it means more power 
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25th December 2010, 20:54
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yeah as said ph3's or cat cams 708's!
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25th December 2010, 20:57
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well I've been told it has piper-cams at the moment? not sure if it does will only find out when I get my 205 out of the garage and get the saxo in to start taking it apart
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25th December 2010, 21:11
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What yr is the car?
Its big money once you go for TB's/pistons/rods/management...
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25th December 2010, 21:14
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P reg mate so 98 if im correct?
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25th December 2010, 21:24
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Car(s): Race: 106 Rallye 16v. Road: Mercedes Vito 120 CDI
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96-97 
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25th December 2010, 21:47
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I knew that  whys that any way?
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25th December 2010, 22:13
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave_P
What yr is the car?
Its big money once you go for TB's/pistons/rods/management...
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Well that depends on what you call big money
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27th December 2010, 22:05
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Originally Posted by _Jon_
Well that depends on what you call big money |
itb's - around £1000 / £1200 with filter
pistons and rods - £900 / £1000 with matching HG
management - £600 + mapping
Cams - £400 + followers/springs + pullieys £800
new timing kit + waterpump = £100
headwork and Bottom end bored (if going for over sized pistons) = £600-1000
engine mount kit - £175
full exhaust system - £600
that should cover the basics, cheaper to go turbo for the power to money ratio
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27th December 2010, 23:12
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Originally Posted by rorz_vts
itb's - around £1000 / £1200 with filter
pistons and rods - £900 / £1000 with matching HG
management - £600 + mapping
Cams - £400 + followers/springs + pullieys £800
new timing kit + waterpump = £100
headwork and Bottom end bored (if going for over sized pistons) = £600-1000
engine mount kit - £175
full exhaust system - £600
that should cover the basics, cheaper to go turbo for the power to money ratio
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well you've gotta have a reason to get up go to work everyday and this is going to be mine
and ITB's can get a decent hardly used set for less cash
mapping I know people that know people 
followers springs and pullies arn't the most expensive thing in the world if you look around there is always someone willing to give you a deal!
I've got a timing kit and pretty sure I've got a water pump laying around somewhere
and when I go to the lengths of head work and pitons etc im going for a supercharger set up along with it!
oh and all I need is a manifold so all in all won't really cost that much! all these things take time to do so work work work then play
Thanks for the help mate helps brake it down a bit im really just looking for a good setup without having to change piston sizes compression etc so ph3 and which ever ITB's I can get for the best price!
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28th December 2010, 08:47
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Saxperience Forum Bum
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woow long list with big prices, its a big project in terms off money and effort...at the end off the day it all on how much time and money you have but it will defo pay off and be worth it
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28th December 2010, 15:38
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Originally Posted by joe333
woow long list with big prices, its a big project in terms off money and effort...at the end off the day it all on how much time and money you have but it will defo pay off and be worth it |
yeah but unfortuantly anything to do with cars is expensive lol! and yeah I hope so mate.
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29th December 2010, 18:31
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does anyone know if bike carbs are any good compared with ITB's? and what sort of power gains they produce? thanks Jon
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29th December 2010, 18:36
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carbs are pants!! bike tb's are ok tho!
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29th December 2010, 18:43
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Quote:
Originally Posted by phunkymonkey
carbs are pants!! bike tb's are ok tho!
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really? never really heard much about them to be honest! hmm any idea on how much bike tb's are?
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29th December 2010, 18:48
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rorz_vts
itb's - around £1000 / £1200 with filter
pistons and rods - £900 / £1000 with matching HG
management - £600 + mapping
Cams - £400 + followers/springs + pullieys £800
new timing kit + waterpump = £100
headwork and Bottom end bored (if going for over sized pistons) = £600-1000
engine mount kit - £175
full exhaust system - £600
that should cover the basics, cheaper to go turbo for the power to money ratio
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thing is you dont need to get piston and rods, followers/springs/puleys
head work or bottom end work done, or engine mounts
get ph3s or 708s and you dont need any of the above
when did a full exhaust system cost £600?!?! btb wasnt even that new!
car may not need timing kit or water pump either, depending on when it was last changed.
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