Willsys VTS Engine conversion. Hydra now available to others, price included - Page 12 - Saxperience

jpsaxo · 26th September 2007, 00:28

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Originally Posted by willsy

Josh,

Been looking at my parts list tonight and reviewing some of the benefits and needs of some items.

Baffled sump: how beneficial is this to have? is it worth the approx £200 cost of getting one considering the cars use?

Larger injectors? How strongly do you advice these?

Just looking at some of the more pricey items and wondering whether or not theyre needed? or whether theyre more of a hardcore extra?

How many track days are you planning on doing a year? will you be using cut slicks?

Larger injectors possibly not needed for cammed vts, but might be needed in the future if you go much further.

jpsaxo · 26th September 2007, 00:30

Bring that list we made on Sunday mate and we can re-evaluate things

willsy · 26th September 2007, 00:31

TBH ill probably only do FCS and Trax on the track, and maybe the odd other occasion when an opportunity arises. Cant see me doing more than 5 per year at the moment.

EDIT so for the time being i can eliminate the larger injectors?

jpsaxo · 26th September 2007, 00:35

what about slicks? are you thinking of getting a set or not?

willsy · 26th September 2007, 00:40

This is the list as it stands

willsy · 26th September 2007, 00:42

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Originally Posted by jpsaxo

what about slicks? are you thinking of getting a set or not?

Havnt considered these at this moment in time. Until i know exactly how much tracktime i do and have got a good taste for it these so far arent really an option i dont think.

Starting to feel a bit poor and need to spend wisely lol

jpsaxo · 26th September 2007, 00:45

yep larger injectors can gtf, baffled sump is only worth it if using slicks imo, although i'd imagine if you were getting plenty of blow by on track this would be one of the first things you could try to eliminate it.

Our list / estimated prices of things is not too far off currently

willsy · 26th September 2007, 00:58

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Originally Posted by jpsaxo

yep larger injectors can gtf, baffled sump is only worth it if using slicks imo, although i'd imagine if you were getting plenty of blow by on track this would be one of the first things you could try to eliminate it.

Our list / estimated prices of things is not too far off currently

Pretty damn close estimated on most things

doing well there.

Eliminated the Baffled sump and injectors for now, so thats £550 clawed back.

Gearbox one will go up a fair chunk though, definately 100% getting a recon box rather than a normal 2nd hand jobby.

rushy_23 · 26th September 2007, 12:22

Phoock man, this thread is making me sweat. That price list is scary as hell
man. Matt you sure its a good idea from both our points of view

Not heard from QEP myself yet..

Yates · 26th September 2007, 12:30

is it worth getting a twin fan unit for just cams?

and is it worth gettin an fpr? whats standard? isnt it 3? heard more bout them flooding engine

have you sourced a vts box yet? when are you planning on doing the box? as if you leave it til im back once mines fitted we could do a deal on my old box

its only done 20k if that, was replaced at 50k

willsy · 26th September 2007, 23:23

Havnt looked at the gearbox yet, i wont be buying 2nd hand though. going to spend the extra and get a refurbed box

fan unit currently has 1 fan in it, but for a few extra quid its a piece of cake to get a 2nd fan, fit it into the unit and either connect it up to work along side the first fan or have it working on a switch

either way isnt expensive.

willsy · 27th September 2007, 20:36

Had my second reply back from QEP today and its all good news, im going ahead with the following:

For £891.39 (including the cams and followers)

New valve guides
Seats Cut
Valves Ground
Cleaned
Skimmed Assembled
CatCam 708's with the new set of hydraulic followers

Sent an email to hopefully get everything finalised and arrange for the work to be done. Does anyone know if QEP offer a courier service for picking up the head or anything? Its a 320 mile round trip which ill be doing twice if i have to travel myself.

Im still half tempted to get pistons changed aswel, ill have everything setup and ready then if i did do could whip on some TBs in future. Thinking i should just stick with the headwork and cams though, itll be more than enough power.

willsy · 27th September 2007, 20:37

Expect a bottom end update tomorrow too, going to get up early and start cleaning it up so that when the head arrives back i can reassemble it all

Yates · 27th September 2007, 20:43

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Originally Posted by willsy

Havnt looked at the gearbox yet, i wont be buying 2nd hand though. going to spend the extra and get a refurbed box

imo thats pointless mate, as said mines 20k not trying to sell you it, regardless of what box you get you want it rebuilt/conditioned, then you are going to get a dif and stick that in, again your taking the box apart

i would think that it would be better and work out cheaper to get a box, then get the dif fitted and rebuilt at the same time, rather than gettin a rebuilt one which would cost more then taking it all apart again

what you think?

i mean you could get an old box on the cheap

are you just going for vts box then? not tempted by s1 or xsi?

JayWard · 27th September 2007, 20:44

mate this thread is good man! hope everything works out for you and cant wait to see the finished article! good luck. .oh and btw i might be able to actually meet sumtime soon cuz got me test again on the 11th and car should be back from being painted by then!

Yates · 27th September 2007, 21:09

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Originally Posted by JayWard

mate this thread is good man! hope everything works out for you and cant wait to see the finished article! good luck. .oh and btw i might be able to actually meet sumtime soon cuz got me test again on the 11th and car should be back from being painted by then!

have you lost your license then?

jpsaxo · 27th September 2007, 22:52

Good stuff Matt, all sounding good!

Luke · 27th September 2007, 23:58

Bloody hell mate, you really are moving on this aren't we.

When is the engine expected to be in for? Trust me standard VTS power is quick...

stevenet15 · 28th September 2007, 03:18

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Originally Posted by willsy

Had my second reply back from QEP today and its all good news, im going ahead with the following:

For £891.39 (including the cams and followers)

New valve guides
Seats Cut
Valves Ground
Cleaned
Skimmed Assembled
CatCam 708's with the new set of hydraulic followers

Sent an email to hopefully get everything finalised and arrange for the work to be done. Does anyone know if QEP offer a courier service for picking up the head or anything? Its a 320 mile round trip which ill be doing twice if i have to travel myself.

Im still half tempted to get pistons changed aswel, ill have everything setup and ready then if i did do could whip on some TBs in future. Thinking i should just stick with the headwork and cams though, itll be more than enough power.

not sure if they offer a collection service but they must offer a delivery service after the work, you can send the head via interparcel (http://www.interparcel.com/) only costs £20 to send it, i've sent a few heads with them before with no problems, u can also arrange the courier company to collect it back from QEP but u will have to get them to package it up

willsy · 28th September 2007, 11:07

Steve thats awesome, cheers

I was wondering if there was a good reputable company and how much they'd charge to send it. Saves alot of travelling + fuel

Luke, i still plan to hopefully have the engine fully complete and ready to go into the car by December, need to pull my finger out and get working harder but its do-able.

Tax runs out end of November and insurance is due for renewal 4th Dec so itll be ideal to declare it SORN and not renew insurance by then.

Gives me 3 months then to get engine bay sorted and everything up and running. Im 22 on Feb 6th and my extra years driving experience comes in March 4th so itll be perfect to renew my Insurance etc then and be cost effective.

Insurance is only £150 more if i do it like that