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12th October 2007, 23:47
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#281
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West Midlands
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Nuneaton (West Mids)
Posts: 13,835
Car(s): '64 Volvo V40 R’Design, '89 Ph1 309 GTi, ‘97 Mk1 S
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Originally Posted by rushy_23
Is it safe to apply hammerite to the engine?
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TBH it better be Rush lol.
Nah seriously its fine, Josh used that on his and its more than adequote. Its clear that the bottom end is painted black originally anyway as its cast iron and would develop rust if it wasnt. Where the paints aged over time (R reg engine) theres a few small bubbles that are formed under the original paint.
These bubbles at the moment arent any real problem, but when dremmeling over them there is some rusty colouring just under the surface. Well worth keeping clean for anyone else who looks after their engine and perhaps top up this paint. Hammerite is guaranteed for 5 years aswel on a single coat
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13th October 2007, 00:00
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#282
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Super Moderator
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Durham (England)
Posts: 37,932
Car(s): 1. AX
2. Mk2 Saxo VTR
3. MK4 R32 DBP
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great work up to now, keep going
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13th October 2007, 00:08
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#283
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West Midlands
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Nuneaton (West Mids)
Posts: 13,835
Car(s): '64 Volvo V40 R’Design, '89 Ph1 309 GTi, ‘97 Mk1 S
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Originally Posted by Predator_VTR
great work up to now, keep going 
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cheers pred.
still waiting for news from QEP of head being done, but not expecting to hear anything until about wednesday i guess.
ive got a load of parts sitting in my room- i.e different bearings here and there, piston rings, big ends, little ends, etc etc. all of which i think most are bottom end related, havnt got the foggiest idea what im doing with them though, bit relictant to start fannying around with internals. may get someone to do that bit for me when my timing gets setup again. Going to see if a bloke from local Specialist will come and do it in his spare time
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14th October 2007, 16:53
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#284
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Saxperience Post Whore
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Sydney
Posts: 8,525
Car(s): Mango Westcoast
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Hammerite will be fine lads
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14th October 2007, 19:12
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#285
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West Midlands
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Nuneaton (West Mids)
Posts: 13,835
Car(s): '64 Volvo V40 R’Design, '89 Ph1 309 GTi, ‘97 Mk1 S
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Josh how easy/hard is it to change all those bottom end internals that ive got? would i be best getting someone to to do those to ensure that theyre 100% correct.
Do you know of anyone that can do the timing/how much would you expect to pay for it?
Bought the hammerite today for painting the bottom end and some spray to do the sump. So a nice lil update should come tomorrow.
Replacing a fair few nuts and bolts aswel as theres plenty that look shagged tbh especially the crappy torx ones which i always fear rounding.
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15th October 2007, 13:14
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#286
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West Midlands
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Nuneaton (West Mids)
Posts: 13,835
Car(s): '64 Volvo V40 R’Design, '89 Ph1 309 GTi, ‘97 Mk1 S
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Monday 15th October
Started to paint the bottom end today and a few other bits and pieces ready to put them back on.
Pleased with how the bottom end looks, only done 1 coat to 1 side so far (will probably do 3 just to be sure its fully covered)
So far though the sump looks piss poor. No matter how much ive cleaned it with gunk remover etc etc when applying the Hammerite it still seems to have had a bubbly reaction to the first coat, which looks crap (see below pic)
After whacking on a 2nd coat though it seemed to cover fine with no oily marks so im thinking that the first coats absorbed any remaining oil. Ill rub it back a bit tomorrow morning so a smoother surface and give it a couple of coats- should look spot on then all being well
And the only other bit i got round to painting
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15th October 2007, 13:15
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#287
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Saxperience Hardcore!
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: West Mids
Posts: 15,392
Car(s): '98 EK9 N1
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Good stuff there Matt. Hammerite literally is FTW. I really do mean that lol.
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15th October 2007, 13:15
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#288
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Saxperience Hardcore!
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Powys
Posts: 15,348
Car(s): Icelandtic Grey Citroen Saxo VTS 53 Turbo
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great updates  saxo engine is coming on nicely
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15th October 2007, 13:18
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#289
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Super Moderator
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Durham (England)
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Car(s): 1. AX
2. Mk2 Saxo VTR
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good stuff mate, should of used some vinegar to clean the parts, there supposed to come up well, and would of been good for a good painting surface, think its white vinegar you use though
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15th October 2007, 13:23
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#290
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West Midlands
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Nuneaton (West Mids)
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Car(s): '64 Volvo V40 R’Design, '89 Ph1 309 GTi, ‘97 Mk1 S
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2nd coat of sump, looks less patchy. will definately sand back and do again on a smoother surface
another of the bottom end after a bit more drying time
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15th October 2007, 13:26
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#291
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Super Moderator
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Location: Durham (England)
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2. Mk2 Saxo VTR
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yeah a suppose a bit of sanding it back smooth should sort it out
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15th October 2007, 13:26
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#292
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West Midlands
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Nuneaton (West Mids)
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Car(s): '64 Volvo V40 R’Design, '89 Ph1 309 GTi, ‘97 Mk1 S
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Originally Posted by Predator_VTR
good stuff mate, should of used some vinegar to clean the parts, there supposed to come up well, and would of been good for a good painting surface, think its white vinegar you use though
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Cheers Pred, had a try of the vinegar last week on some of my bolts, they came up ok, but Dads got a wire brush machine and some hefty goves so i dont sever my hands. Brings them up perfectly in a very small amount of time
Alot of the bolts with torx or allen key style fitments im going to buy new ones anyway as some look a little worn.
Coming along nicely though. Going to tackle some of the big end/little end bearings myself tomorrow morning, and start to fit some of the other seals. Also getting a price for doing my timing aswel when the heads returned
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15th October 2007, 13:28
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#293
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Saxperience Forum Bum
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: West midlands
Posts: 4,628
Car(s): Koleen
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Looking good matt! Got first week off in november so if your free anydays that week let me know!
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15th October 2007, 13:30
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#294
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L-plater
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 93
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looks cool dude,is that a standard saxo colour?
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15th October 2007, 13:31
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#295
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Saxperience Addict
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Frome, down deepest, darkest zummerset
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Car(s): VTRallye
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looking good guna do mine before i put the vts engine in.
only problem i funking hate painting my get spray styleeeeeeeeee.
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15th October 2007, 13:47
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#296
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West Midlands
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Nuneaton (West Mids)
Posts: 13,835
Car(s): '64 Volvo V40 R’Design, '89 Ph1 309 GTi, ‘97 Mk1 S
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Originally Posted by p-xas
looks cool dude,is that a standard saxo colour?
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Nope my cars painted Lamborgini Gallado Corona Yellow.
Citroen do a yellow colour (Zest) yellow but its a bit paler, check out my other progress thread for pics of how it used to look in the Zest colour
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15th October 2007, 13:48
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#297
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Saxperience Addict
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Costa del Wales
Posts: 12,393
Car(s): Spam Wagon
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Car is looking super dupa awsome mate
Makes me Moist
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15th October 2007, 13:50
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#298
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Established Member
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Buxton, Derbyshire
Posts: 1,801
Car(s): Impreza Sti PPP
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Coming along nicely mate, bottom end looks good
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15th October 2007, 18:15
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#299
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Saxperience Post Whore
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Sydney
Posts: 8,525
Car(s): Mango Westcoast
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How many text's have we sent each other today? Lol
Looks good mate, going to dig some pic's out now. As said on text try getting hold of some brake dust cleaner, did the trick for mine....
Def think pistons are a must if its had compression issue's in one cylinder, first thing you should be doing is taking the pistons out and have a good look at the bores. If they are fine you can either go with new rings or froged high comps - choice is yours. But while the pistons are out you might as well go for forgies IMHO.
Chances are oil cooler wont be necassary untill summer anyway so giving your bank a couple of months to recover!
I think at this point you should be taking the pistons out and have a nosey around, then look at fitting as per above, after that the bearings and trusts can go in - also a couple of crank seals that i supplied in that kit for you mate
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15th October 2007, 18:20
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#300
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Saxperience Post Whore
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Sydney
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Car(s): Mango Westcoast
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The 2 different types of bearings we spoke about earlier...
Bottom end pics:-
Old pistons
New pistons on rods
Bare block
Crank
1st piston in
That should get your juices flowing if nothing else, Lol
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