BE4 conversion - Page 3 - Saxperience

crisppug · 18th October 2011, 15:46

good thread tweeqd thankyou for putting the time into doin this thread,good insight of how the conversion is done

ryanmt · 18th October 2011, 16:42

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Originally Posted by raunchz

Probably worth just getting a new one from Citroen or it should come with the gearbox

I think some of the later boxes (2005 ish maybe) dont have a speedo sender in, it was ecu managed. Mine has a blanking plate in it that looks very OEM

saxo-parts · 24th October 2011, 18:01

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Originally Posted by ryanmt

I think some of the later boxes (2005 ish maybe) dont have a speedo sender in, it was ecu managed. Mine has a blanking plate in it that looks very OEM

think it was earlier then that tbh, just stripped a BE out of an early 307 and thats got the blank fitted

dannygti · 18th October 2011, 16:45

some good info, i might have a bit of info for this thread soon. just want to make sure it all works ok first.

crisppug · 19th October 2011, 21:10

just read this again very usefull information.

steve-thankyou for going to the trouble of finding the cable part no - but dont you think it would be worth running a cable with metal ends seen as the clutch is quite a bit stiffer than standard? just thinking of fit and forget purposes like.

cheers

tweeqd · 24th October 2011, 20:06

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Originally Posted by crisppug

just read this again very usefull information.

steve-thankyou for going to the trouble of finding the cable part no - but dont you think it would be worth running a cable with metal ends seen as the clutch is quite a bit stiffer than standard? just thinking of fit and forget purposes like.

cheers

ive used a FIRSTLINE cable the same as steve mentioned with an AP twin plate clutch for ove 1k now and had no problems

the box can take more power and there are hundreds of gear ratios to mix and match unlike an MA

jsdvtr · 4th December 2011, 11:41

Would this be adequate enough for a paddle clutch? Wont bend or anything unlike the MA fork levers.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CLUTCH-FOR...item4cf7061188

I know its the same one listed as in the first post of the thread but wasnt sure if would need something stronger.

Also has anyone got any measurements of BE mounts for saxo/106 as wanting to make my own but cant until i have these as i would like to have everything ready before i start the conversion.

tweeqd · 4th December 2011, 14:09

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Originally Posted by jsdvtr

Would this be adequate enough for a paddle clutch? Wont bend or anything unlike the MA fork levers.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CLUTCH-FOR...item4cf7061188

I know its the same one listed as in the first post of the thread but wasnt sure if would need something stronger.

Also has anyone got any measurements of BE mounts for saxo/106 as wanting to make my own but cant until i have these as i would like to have everything ready before i start the conversion.

a genuine one isnt much more than that, ive got the genuine version of that and run a twin plate AP lug drive and its fine

ryanmt · 4th December 2011, 13:35

Thats the cable one so its slighty longer. If you are worried about strength reinforce it. Im gonna weld some bits to mine to strengthen it up

Steffrallye · 5th December 2011, 10:17

No, you need a BE box from a Car with a TU engine, normally its a 1.6 8v.

NismoSteve · 7th December 2011, 07:45

So my xsara VTR 8 valve was a BE box then? I've just replace that with a HDI box.

jsdvtr · 8th December 2011, 17:40

Also another quick question, the hubs have to be from a 1.8+ BE car, does it matter about the shafts? So for instance can they be from a 1.6 8v off same car as the gearbox?

gazza808 · 19th February 2012, 10:23

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Originally Posted by tweeqd

the BE4 uses the standard TU/MA crank sensor

I know this, but I'd read it's in a different position slightly,
Which in turn when running standalone you need to adjust the ignition angle? Had caused peoples engines to det?

Might be a complete lie lol.
Just wanted to make sure.

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tweeqd · 19th February 2012, 22:14

the sensor mounts to the block not the gearbox so changing the gearbox cant alter the position of the sensor

gazza808 · 20th February 2012, 06:55

Ahh this is very true,
Dunno what at speed and other people are spouting on about, cheers tweeqd!

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tweeqd · 20th February 2012, 22:09

ive heard before that Atspeed say its different but i ran a standard 16v with standard ecu with my BE4 and now use the same sensor with my DTA and have it running at the standard settings

i also took the sensor off my car and fitted it straight on to a customers 106 quicksilver when his failed

perhaps they like charging for stuff not needed

gazza808 · 20th February 2012, 22:45

This is music to my ears lol!

Cheers buddy!

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gazza808 · 6th March 2012, 12:29

so what cps bracket are you using here?

compared to this?

this bit is confusing me.

tweeqd · 6th March 2012, 19:25

the one i have is the standard late type 2 pin CPS

the lower one is an early sheilded type (with a bit of modifying you can get the early type to fit in the late holder)
not sure why they have cut the box to run that type of bracket as the standard one works spot on

i have run my DTA on standard CPS setings and a standard 16v ecu on the same late type plug

also in that pic it looks like someone has fitted the clutch cable back to front

gazza808 · 6th March 2012, 20:41

Hmmm I'm sure it works fine, I'll have too see, just it's in a fairly different place about 5degrees at a guess, moves it from below that mounting bolt to above it.
Assume I need a picasso cps bracket.

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