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Old 14th September 2012, 12:41   #21
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What tyres do you use?

Bilstein Group N dampers
Faulkner custom springs
Polyrace bushes all round
New top mounts if needed
21mm torsion bars
25mm rear ARB

I'm sure others will come up with other ideas
Mines almost identical!

Bi stein group N dampers
Faulkner 180lbs springs
21mm torsion bars
24mm rear arm
Poly bushes


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Old 14th September 2012, 13:00   #22
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^^

If its not for competition then there's no need to spend loads of money on a track car.

Get a full set of polyrace bushes:
- 4 x Rear beam
- 2 x front wishbone
- 2 x rear wishbone
- 2 x ARB

Also make sure your rear beam and ball joints have no play.

Re new drop links and top mounts if needs be.

Group N front dampers
B8 rear dampers
GMC/Faulkner springs 160-180lb

That should be a decent enough set up for some good cornering/handling action on track and I'm sure you will have lots of fun.

Its a good reliable set up.

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Also other things to consider to improve the feel/drivability of the car:

- Racing wheel makes the car feel tighter for some reason...330mm OMP/Sparco felt just right for me.

- Good hugging FIA (doesn't have to be in date) bucket seat and a 3 inch 4 point harness to make yourself feel in tune with the car when cornering.

- Heavy weighted gear knob makes the gear change easier and feel more slick.
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Old 14th September 2012, 14:43   #23
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Then save the £700. Put it into a fund for proper dedicated suspension, then use the car as standard and just have fun...

For a trackday car, gut the car of any excess weight, get a good pad material, get a seat and harnesses in so you are in tune with the chassis and get out on track.

To be honest you could just buy a dedicated trackday car or a stock hatch for the money you are thinking of spending overall especially when you work out the price of fitting a proper cage.
I've already completely gutted the car including removal of dash, heater + matrix, washer bottle cut out door skins etc etc. This has left the car sitting VERY high and feeling very soft as its still on the original suspension. I realise now that I could have bought a car already done, but it's a bit late now as I've already spent money on bits for it (including a nice racing exhaust from yourselves) and to be honest half of the enjoyment for me is watching the car develop.
At this stage I just want to get the suspension something like sorted, new brake pads and get using it! The cage, engine tuning etc can come at a later date when funds allow.
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Old 14th September 2012, 14:48   #24
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^^

If its not for competition then there's no need to spend loads of money on a track car.

Get a full set of polyrace bushes:
- 4 x Rear beam
- 2 x front wishbone
- 2 x rear wishbone
- 2 x ARB

Also make sure your rear beam and ball joints have no play.

Re new drop links and top mounts if needs be.

Group N front dampers
B8 rear dampers
GMC/Faulkner springs 160-180lb

That should be a decent enough set up for some good cornering/handling action on track and I'm sure you will have lots of fun.

Its a good reliable set up.

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Also other things to consider to improve the feel/drivability of the car:

- Racing wheel makes the car feel tighter for some reason...330mm OMP/Sparco felt just right for me.

- Good hugging FIA (doesn't have to be in date) bucket seat and a 3 inch 4 point harness to make yourself feel in tune with the car when cornering.

- Heavy weighted gear knob makes the gear change easier and feel more slick.
Thanks mate, sounds something along the lines I was thinking of.
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Old 14th September 2012, 16:26   #25
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my ideal setup is slightly more hard

bilstien inverted dampers and cup hubs
285lb front springs
solid topmounts
23mm torsion bars
24mm rear arb
powerflex black front wishbone bushes
vibratechnics rear bushes
polyrace rear beam mounts
gaz gold rear dampers

i just need dampers and i can fit my torsion bars and swap springs im there haha


he have blown over the £700 just on the inverted damper inserts+ strut casings to go with them
you looking at about £1000 for front struts +dampers +coil overs to suit before you start on the rest
I can get complete struts made to what ever spec you want,
once you start using 300lbs springs you must be going to rose jointed top mounts and re-enforcing the strut tops or they will bend with that spring rate .
no point in going 300lbs springs if you don,t have good cage either as shell will flex
the track day kit we suggest is the best compromiseyou can get at the price - no one beats me on bilstein prices when comparing the EXACT same inserts and rear dampers + they are in stock
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Old 14th September 2012, 16:59   #26
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he have blown over the £700 just on the inverted damper inserts+ strut casings to go with them
you looking at about £1000 for front struts +dampers +coil overs to suit before you start on the rest
I can get complete struts made to what ever spec you want,
once you start using 300lbs springs you must be going to rose jointed top mounts and re-enforcing the strut tops or they will bend with that spring rate .
no point in going 300lbs springs if you don,t have good cage either as shell will flex
the track day kit we suggest is the best compromiseyou can get at the price - no one beats me on bilstein prices when comparing the EXACT same inserts and rear dampers + they are in stock
What sort of rate are the springs that come with your kit?
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Old 16th September 2012, 13:54   #27
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I believe gmc springs to be 160lb ish....john??

I have gmc's fast road kit.. Groupn fronts, b8 rears and -40springs. Along with group n top mounts, poly bushes from and rear plus solid alloy wishbone rear bushes

Was a good setup... Until i fitted a quaife atb diff. Now FAR to soft

Going with some faulkner 180lb springs, 21mm tb's and group n rears ...but this may still prove to soft
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my ideal setup is slightly more hard

gaz gold rear dampers
I run a set of these, well worth the money!!!!!
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