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Colin · 23rd December 2006, 14:33

Exactly. BHP figures are wank really. Just for pub talk or people who read AutoCar.

Torque is where it is at!

vtr_driver · 23rd December 2006, 14:41

Yup tourque is what you need day to day power is generally at high RPM which is never used. Thats where diesels excel because of the tourque.

Anyone know if the 1.6 hdi would fit in a saxo/106? (Thoughts of very quick series 1 106 diesel are now formulating)

S34MER · 23rd December 2006, 15:02

my dads A6 3.0TDI is torquey as fuck! it feels much faster than his SLK 350 tbh, but its just because you feel the torque so much more from a diesel engine!

Scott^p · 23rd December 2006, 15:43

207 gt does comes in 1.6 turbo 150bhp petrol variety.

lavo-vts · 23rd December 2006, 16:21

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Originally Posted by rey

207GT engine is a diesel!! performance isnt too hot

its petrol. its a brand new bmw engine out of the new mini cooper

Scott^p · 23rd December 2006, 16:36

its not a bmw engine, PSA developed it with BMW for the new mini hence why its appearing in teh new 207 as well. New 207 gti uses a 180/5 version of it apparently

KamRacing · 23rd December 2006, 17:05

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Originally Posted by vtr_driver

Also why has the C2/C3 GT/VTR only got 110 from the same 1.6 16V?

milder cam profile I think

Colin · 23rd December 2006, 17:07

And different throttle body.

Barry123 · 23rd December 2006, 17:11

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Originally Posted by vtr_driver

Anyone know if the 1.6 hdi would fit in a saxo/106? (Thoughts of very quick series 1 106 diesel are now formulating)

Looking seriously into it in 2008 dude.

I'd think the 1.6 HDI might be too big/heavy though. even though in standard form it produces 110bhp. or 140bhp superchiped (+£500 - bargin)

They do a 1.4 16v which produces 92bhp standard, again superchipping would see over 115bhp.

anyway...

peugeots.. wtf is going on with them... there isnt a single car in their current line i like.

Colin · 23rd December 2006, 17:13

Turbo cars respond well to Superchips. I think they just up the boost slightly.

Barry123 · 23rd December 2006, 17:14

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Originally Posted by ColSax

Turbo cars respond well to Superchips. I think they just up the boost slightly.

and piss about with the ignition timings too

Mcsvtr · 23rd December 2006, 18:11

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Originally Posted by SteVTR

not just the engine the whole car is shite puegeot have seriously lost the plot

i wouldnt agree. me granda has a 407 1.4 d, its a 1.4 and its diesel, its a miser on juice, peugeot/citroen made ok diesel engines in the past, ie berlingo and partner sold like hotbuns over here and are very common. Thats for a reason

SteVTR · 24th December 2006, 10:27

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Originally Posted by Mcsvtr

i wouldnt agree. me granda has a 407 1.4 d, its a 1.4 and its diesel, its a miser on juice, peugeot/citroen made ok diesel engines in the past, ie berlingo and partner sold like hotbuns over here and are very common. Thats for a reason

wasnt slating diesels when i said that mate i was slating peugeot in general for copping out and building middle of the road pissy warm hatches like most companies are doing thesedays

the 150 bhp turbo 207 gt is built to compete with the likes of the mini cooper and the fiesta st both of which are cheaper than the 207 and the fiesta is quicker than it.also both the mini and the fiesta are nicer looking cars and imo have a nicer interior

and when they bring the 27 gti out it'll be up against the cars like the 197 clio so it'll probally flop aswell

Barry123 · 24th December 2006, 10:34

true. the PSA range of engines are up their among the best and they have a huge wealth of engineering talent. Just somehow when they come to designing the chassis it's as they go 'how can we make this proper shite???'

R4T · 24th December 2006, 10:52

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Originally Posted by SteVTR

nothing wrong with diesel engines look at the golf gti tdi it flies quite a few manufacturers are using diesles in performance cars now but as for the 207 gt its wank i'd avoid it like the plague

i agree the golf tdi is a flier,my ex's mum has 1 with a amd chip what a mega difference it makes cudnt believe it!!!

spencer_cammedvts · 24th December 2006, 13:19

sorry lads bit of a hijack but with the two vts engines being very similar does anyone know if the throttlebody one each angine is the same?

please reply ye olde saxo gods!

hesslevtr · 24th December 2006, 13:23

i thought the only made 1 vts engine

was vtr what the changed

saxoash · 24th December 2006, 13:34

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Originally Posted by hesslevtr

i thought the only made 1 vts engine

was vtr what the changed

He on about the saxo vts and the c2 vts engines.

No i read somewhere that there different and i dont think you can swap the throttle boddie over between saxo and c2, Not a straight swap anyway

Sean · 24th December 2006, 13:50

c2 vts and saxo vts 'bodies are different, c2 vts is a bsi unit, so when doing c2 vts engine into a saxo the saxo 'body is used but is the head has to be redrilled and tapped to accept it as the bolts dont line up.

spencer_cammedvts · 24th December 2006, 13:53

is that the only difference?./ the bolt holes having to be drilled and tapped? the reason i ask is i was going to include the c2 vts on my ebay throttlebody listings but mention that there are slight mods to be made