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6th January 2013, 18:39
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L-plater
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Bought A VTS Engine
Basically last month i did a saxo VTS engine conversion. I fitted it with one of my mates and the engine run sweet for a month until the cambelt tensioner cam loose and broke the engine. Then i searched every scrap yard near me looking for an engine with no luck. So i then went on ebay and bought one from a guy who said it had just come out of a running car. It looked really clean on the one photo provided and the guy said it was clean on the phone. Now he personally drove up and delivered the engine to me in the dark even though he said it was coming by courier. i looked over the engine in the daylight for the first time today and i just dont think the engine in the picture on the advert is the same as the one he sold me.
So basically does this engine look like its been stood for some time as i think it does
Thanks
Here is the advert photo
Here are the photos i took today
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6th January 2013, 18:53
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Looks like an engine mate, the rocker covers look the same as in pic. You never no how LNG the car has been stood. I have a 8v removed 2 days ago and looks the same with some surfice rust
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6th January 2013, 18:56
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Engine numbers is going to be the only way to check, but if you didnt ask before then you are buggered. I'd be inclined to pull the head off and inspect everything
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6th January 2013, 19:01
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I'd say thats not the same,
You would be able see the blue oil filter in engine bay as it would stand out, the oil cap yellow paint has been half rubbed off and the torx bolts on the cam covers are much more rounded off.
Looking at it more that is not the same, look at the patterns on the cam covers
Last edited by Cam; 6th January 2013 at 19:05.
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6th January 2013, 19:07
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cam
I'd say thats not the same,
You would be able see the blue oil filter in engine bay as it would stand out, the oil cap yellow paint has been half rubbed off and the torx bolts on the cam covers are much more rounded off.
Looking at it more that is not the same, look at the patterns on the cam covers
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Edit: I'm a tool ignore me.
Last edited by Jordysport; 6th January 2013 at 19:12.
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6th January 2013, 19:08
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defo been stood for a bit..as its got rust on the pulleys
but that could be a matter or weeks if its been in a damp shed or garage
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6th January 2013, 19:29
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Saying that after looking at pics in better detail on my laptop does look a bit ruff round the edges
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6th January 2013, 20:32
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for me its the dipstick...... shiny clean vs grimy dirty oily.....
doesnt mean it hasnt been stood for a while since removing
no matter what your gonna wanna do timing belt/water pump/tensioner i'd also check and reseal cam covers or swap to jp4's look for oil signs on the cam ladder seal, check cam seals, drop oil pan check oil pump and chain, clean sump. so might as well degrease the whole block
just the basics of fitting a used motor
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6th January 2013, 21:23
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Get ur money back off eBay and say item is not as described, that's if ur not happy with ur item mate, does lool different and looks like it has been stood for a little while
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6th January 2013, 21:47
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I got back in touch with him and he has now said that the engine was in the car with no altenator on it with no bonnet for 6 weeks. I was never told this before i bought it and for nearly £300 i expect a much better quality product. So im going to get him to collect it
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6th January 2013, 21:47
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L-plater
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Thanks
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6th January 2013, 22:05
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No chance would i even consider fitting it. What a mess.
At least you've sorted it.
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Last edited by Prickle; 6th January 2013 at 22:18.
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6th January 2013, 22:17
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Damn i just got a 24k genuine mile JP4S for 295.....
I wouldn't have paid 100 for that lump....
Hope you get it sorted man
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7th January 2013, 00:45
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looks like it came from a scrap yard tbh
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11th January 2013, 02:25
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Sounds about right from engines off ebay.
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