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Old 19th September 2010, 18:36   #41
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Vts engines are able to adjust ignition timing according to what fuel you use, would make a minor difference, nothin major
My car deffo feels better on super, but we are only talking a few bhp really.

When i fitted my induction kit the car lost top end power, but felt more torquey

I had an Evo that never did amazing numbers on the Dyno,

Cars that made 30- 40 bhp more than my car on the same dyno were slower out on the road ?
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Old 19th September 2010, 18:44   #42
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My 03 vts got a very reliable figure i feel. It serviced around every 3k,

green panel filter
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and a full service before run and it made 126.6bhp
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cams going in within the next week. will be back for another run and map
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Old 22nd September 2010, 20:54   #44
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that would boost figures up

any trackdays coming up? woud like to see what it can do with more power
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Old 22nd September 2010, 21:13   #45
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got 3 booked/left this year.

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My car deffo feels better on super, but we are only talking a few bhp really.

When i fitted my induction kit the car lost top end power, but felt more torquey

Same... top end power seems to be lacking in my VTR, hits 100 comfortably, anything over it reeally seems to struggle
Yes i realise i probably hasnt got much more to give, but considering my mates 1.25 zetec S hit 110 with 4 of us, one would hope

30 - 70 is amazing though



Was lifted from an impreza with a 73mm to 62mm reducer pipe
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Same... top end power seems to be lacking in my VTR, hits 100 comfortably, anything over it reeally seems to struggle
Yes i realise i probably hasnt got much more to give, but considering my mates 1.25 zetec S hit 110 with 4 of us, one would hope

30 - 70 is amazing though



Was lifted from an impreza with a 73mm to 62mm reducer pipe
would it not make more sense having the air feed coming from the other side instead of over the mani?
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would it not make more sense having the air feed coming from the other side instead of over the mani?

No room :/ 4" cold air feed, its now off though, it never actually touched the mani but kinda defeats the objective of having a 'cold air feed' when heat from the mani heats the pipe up, i dont normally drive it for very long though so it never gets that hot, with the car being stop start
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which cams should be around 135-145 dude... who mapping it? mapping on the standard ecu?
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brand new 708's andy sorting me with a predator. considering holding it a month to get some atpower bodies.
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yer sound good, who mapping it?
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would it not make more sense having the air feed coming from the other side instead of over the mani?

why would you think that pipe would supply cold air anyway -80% of surface area of filter is open to hot air from engine bay --
air will always come the easiest way it can ,so that cold air pipe is quite frankly pointless --sorry
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why would you think that pipe would supply cold air anyway -80% of surface area of filter is open to hot air from engine bay --
air will always come the easiest way it can ,so that cold air pipe is quite frankly pointless --sorry
For real ? Hot air = less power

What about just whacking an air filter straight onto the throttle body & Putting in a bonnet scoop above ?
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why would you think that pipe would supply cold air anyway -80% of surface area of filter is open to hot air from engine bay --
air will always come the easiest way it can ,so that cold air pipe is quite frankly pointless --sorry
Hense it being taken off ;P as said
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why would you think that pipe would supply cold air anyway -80% of surface area of filter is open to hot air from engine bay --
air will always come the easiest way it can ,so that cold air pipe is quite frankly pointless --sorry
thought a good cold air feed would of been better than none at all? not clue'd up on the whole induction kit side of things.
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my mk 1 vtr with straight exhaust-decat-mani- induction-lightened standard fly and fast road clutch and home ported throttle body made 93.18 bhp at 5500rpm and 100.93 ft-lb torque at 2600rpm. dynod on dynojet dyno at janspeed and they will only give you wheel figures, he said flywheel is estimated by others. car goes very well. think must be around 115bhp at fly tho and was 90 before. car only done 50k so would expect to be healthy anyway
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93bhp @ the wheels roughly translates to 103/105bhp @ fly using 17% transmission loss.
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93bhp @ the wheels roughly translates to 103/105bhp @ fly using 17% transmission loss.
my rr operator quoted 20% so at 17% i could be little more?

dont know if to be gutted at the low figure or be pleased with how well it does
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