To satchshift or not to satchshift? - Saxperience

Mathias · 7th September 2011, 21:55

Only other purchase I'm looking at before building the car back up before a few track days is whether to buy and fit a satchshift or not....

Either I do and fit it

Or I buy a normal quick shift and new alloy linkages

Not sure what to do? Undoubtedly if I don't go for one I probably will down the line so may aswell do now..... Has anyone got any actual on track reviews of these?

boony · 7th September 2011, 23:02

im also looking into this also , ive got the gmc quickshift and kamracing gear linkage set however there is still alot of play .

axsaxoman · 9th September 2011, 16:23

I suspect the problem is on the gearbox itself --top gear box arm has a roll pin which wears, so if you move the lever on the box and feel the shaft in the centre it will be sloppy --hit it with the mig welder --you never need to remove this arm even for a rebuild

mark1311 · 9th September 2011, 17:28

used myn at cadwell park open pitting day.... was the nuts tbh, my mat also drove the car on track and has a vtr as a daily with guick shifter so he was best person to compare them... onli thinking he said was epic, i think its the lenth aswell makes it reali nice, as your hardly off the wheel to change gear then back on to have full grip,

just get one bought lol

simmo · 9th September 2011, 17:59

Im buying one of these fo sho!

using the B&M at the moment and thats pretty nice and tight. But for when i start trackdays its just got to be done..

Did i read theres one for us with BE gearbox conversions?

boony · 9th September 2011, 18:25

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Originally Posted by OllieVTS

Im buying one of these fo sho!

using the B&M at the moment and thats pretty nice and tight. But for when i start trackdays its just got to be done..

Did i read theres one for us with BE gearbox conversions?

yes they do them on kam racing

Tufty · 10th September 2011, 11:51

Going to add some input into this and also back up johns point stated in another post.

Friend of mine got a kit... fitted it to an S1 diffed rallye box (fully rebuilt)... 1300 miles later box is being rebuilt because of the sync rings are gone. First i have heard of this happening... but if it does happen you do not want to be stripping boxes for rebuilds for the sake of a few seconds a lap in none competition....

KamRacing · 10th September 2011, 12:27

we've only had good feedback from the Satchshift

AndySAXO^p · 10th September 2011, 12:39

Yer have heard a few gear box with these fitted that they are harder on the syhrco rings.

Not saying it bad, but have heard a few cases now, but that could be down to driving style.

But remembering these are not design for a daily car, just aim at motorsport track driving.

I might get one but not on my must list at the moment.

KamRacing · 10th September 2011, 13:41

People do the same with any 'quickshift'; slamming the car into gear as fast as possible.
As long as you understand you do not have a sequential or lug drive gearbox you will be fine. These kits give a shorter movement but you still have to allow time for the parts to engage correctly. Really the naming is a bad thing as the mechanically naive do not understand the implications.

Tufty · 11th September 2011, 00:09

This is very true. But to be honest, i used to smash the hell out of my old S gearbox for a good 3000 miles and nothing went! He had done under half that in his satchshift.

Jason

solvi · 18th March 2012, 21:24

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Originally Posted by KamRacing

we've only had good feedback from the Satchshift

firt time view one monted in a 106..and ask the owner how it has

its a very light ma 13x59 track only 106 ...and pilot has very happy whith the sctatshift thing..he almost convinced me.

jpsaxo · 18th March 2012, 21:46

I'd definitely recommend a satshift for a track car, I'm not sure if you would want one for a daily driver though

solvi · 18th March 2012, 22:01

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Originally Posted by jpsaxo

I'd definitely recommend a satshift for a track car, I'm not sure if you would want one for a daily driver though

i dont how buil this but mr" COLINS" as reputacion even on portuguesse tracks!!!

KamRacing · 19th March 2012, 10:48

We ship more to Europe than we sell in the UK so its no surprise. Probably our customers

jsdvtr · 19th March 2012, 11:20

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Originally Posted by jpsaxo

I'd definitely recommend a satshift for a track car, I'm not sure if you would want one for a daily driver though

Why would you not want one for everyday?

Been looking at getting one for BE although when cars boosted with BE fitted it wont be used everyday like it is now but i hate the standard shifter setup, just floppy and not very precise gearchanges.

jpsaxo · 19th March 2012, 12:56

I personally wouldn't want to use one on a daily basis, let alone cut the chassis of a daily driver. On a track car / weekend car is a different story, they are epic

KamRacing · 19th March 2012, 13:51

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Originally Posted by jsdvtr

Why would you not want one for everyday?

Been looking at getting one for BE although when cars boosted with BE fitted it wont be used everyday like it is now but i hate the standard shifter setup, just floppy and not very precise gearchanges.

You can but you would have to change your driving habits to allow the synchromesh to engage nicely. Standard gearboxes should never be rushed...

Jungle · 19th March 2012, 14:35

Hope I don't smash my box to pieces when I get mine running lol

jsdvtr · 19th March 2012, 15:10

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Originally Posted by jpsaxo

I personally wouldn't want to use one on a daily basis, let alone cut the chassis of a daily driver. On a track car / weekend car is a different story, they are epic

They look epic plus you know there going to be because colin and sandy have built them.

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Originally Posted by KamRacing

You can but you would have to change your driving habits to allow the synchromesh to engage nicely. Standard gearboxes should never be rushed...

Is this mostly due to the fact the linkages are solid or is because the whole system is tighter than standard?