JBL; GTO-527 Speakers good? - Saxperience

eddietse91 · 14th January 2009, 11:39

Hehllo guys, i'm looking at these speakers http://caraudiosecurity.com/shop/pro...s_id/4885.html
Are these okay to buy to replace my original speakers? the ones i got now is some france ones thats 20RMS. but the JBL ones are 45W rms.. so i think it's better right? also,
I have read the forums about 6X9 speakers are Shat... so is the coaxial 3-way speakers are shat aswell? are 2 ways better or 3 way?
Cheerz guys!

minxymears · 14th January 2009, 13:40

the 6x9 issue is a combination of shape, their location (i.e usually in the rear) and the fact that theyre a co-axial speaker. You get better sound staging with sound being projected from the front and where the speaker units are seperate (As with components)a 3 way co-axial will respond to a bigger range of frequencies.... but are still not idyllic for sound reproduction.... 3 way components on the other hand...

eddietse91 · 14th January 2009, 14:07

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Originally Posted by minxymears

the 6x9 issue is a combination of shape, their location (i.e usually in the rear) and the fact that theyre a co-axial speaker. You get better sound staging with sound being projected from the front and where the speaker units are seperate (As with components)a 3 way co-axial will respond to a bigger range of frequencies.... but are still not idyllic for sound reproduction.... 3 way components on the other hand...

Ah right cool thanks, so.. basicly 6X9 are shat no matter what.. lol,
So the coaxial speakers... are the 2 way or 3 ways better? hehe
Thanks

Ashleyp · 14th January 2009, 14:09

doesnt matter what RMS you have if your powering it with the same amp.. remember, speakers dont give out watts. they only recieve them..

those speakers will replace your standard ones, however if you are willing to spend an extra 30 mins on installation id get a pair of components.

the jbl gto 506 are going for £35 on CAS. my interwebz is too slow to find them for you

yes 6x9s are crap in a system..

the main reason being that theyre in the rear of your car, and you want the sound as up front as possible

in this case, no 3 way coaxials are crap, if theyre up front

however any form of coaxial speaker will never be as good as a component set in the same price bracket.

3 way are better than 2way because there is 3 types of speaker to deliver freq ranges more precisely. (woofer, mid woofer and tweeter) however on a coaxial speaker it just sounds messy

3way comps ftw

Chris_O · 14th January 2009, 14:43

sorry for hijacking the thread thought it would be better than making a new one! if im not going to amp my front speakers would it be better to get coaxials?

eddietse91 · 14th January 2009, 15:56

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Originally Posted by chris_furio

sorry for hijacking the thread thought it would be better than making a new one! if im not going to amp my front speakers would it be better to get coaxials?

Ahh i'm in the same situation.. Ive ordered my amp. it's coming through the post like next week i hope

.. but i don't think i'll power them through my amp? because how do i get the wire going from amp to them? also where does the wires go?.. i just want to change my front co-ax to the JBL ones.. and just power my sub with the amp.. will this be okay?

McBain · 14th January 2009, 15:58

Those speakers will be fine and should sound better.

For a much better sounding system it's worth considering getting components and an amp, but it can quickly become costly.

The RMS figures for those speakers are the maximum power you should attept to drive the with. You can use a more powerfull amp but you'll need to watch the gains.

McBain · 14th January 2009, 16:02

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Originally Posted by eddietse91

Ahh i'm in the same situation.. Ive ordered my amp. it's coming through the post like next week i hope

.. but i don't think i'll power them through my amp? because how do i get the wire going from amp to them? also where does the wires go?.. i just want to change my front co-ax to the JBL ones.. and just power my sub with the amp.. will this be okay?

You can do this if you want, if you have a multichannel amp you could power your speakers and sub, what amp you got coming?
Thing is you might find a sub running off an amp and speakers running off the headunit sounds a bit unbalanced, but you can always upgrade later.

eddietse91 · 14th January 2009, 16:07

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Originally Posted by McBain

You can do this if you want, if you have a multichannel amp you could power your speakers and sub, what amp you got coming?
Thing is you might find a sub running off an amp and speakers running off the headunit sounds a bit unbalanced, but you can always upgrade later.

http://caraudiosecurity.com/shop/pro...s_id/5835.html

This one.. can i run the speakers off it? would it be better if i ran my speakers off my amp?? also, will it be hard to do some wirings?.. i'm a noob at these.... lol,

tuft · 14th January 2009, 16:11

why doesnt it have the RMS outputs for the amp?

McBain · 14th January 2009, 16:12

That amp will run your speakers or sub but not both the same time, sorry.

I would run your sub for now, providing its impedance is 4 ohms, what sub you got?

You could add some components and an amp later.

McBain · 14th January 2009, 16:14

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Originally Posted by tuft

why doesnt it have the RMS outputs for the amp?

Because its not a particularly good amp tbh, those power figures are probably quite a bit abitious.

eddietse91 · 15th January 2009, 10:48

Ah right cool i see, i just got a package with cars audio security, I can't afford to spend lots of money on these. just small upgrades with the ICE. the package i got is
http://caraudiosecurity.com/shop/pro...s_id/6467.html
I know it's not very good, but hey... a sub is still better than no sub right?
Thanks,

Ashleyp · 15th January 2009, 18:08

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Originally Posted by eddietse91

Ah right cool i see, i just got a package with cars audio security, I can't afford to spend lots of money on these. just small upgrades with the ICE. the package i got is
http://caraudiosecurity.com/shop/pro...s_id/6467.html
I know it's not very good, but hey... a sub is still better than no sub right?
Thanks,

well actually.. id say having nothing is better than having that set up tbh..

for a similar price: (i know im usually the first to slate kenwood)

http://caraudiosecurity.com/shop/pro...s_id/3820.html

or if you can stretch:

http://caraudiosecurity.com/shop/pro...s_id/1233.html

lewy · 15th January 2009, 21:05

i got JBL mid range speakers, they are proper good, proper loud. i got JBL tweeters too i highly recommend them!!!

but like ashleyp said, the speakers receive they dont power.

McBain · 15th January 2009, 21:58

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Originally Posted by eddietse91

Ah right cool i see, i just got a package with cars audio security, I can't afford to spend lots of money on these. just small upgrades with the ICE. the package i got is
http://caraudiosecurity.com/shop/pro...s_id/6467.html
I know it's not very good, but hey... a sub is still better than no sub right?
Thanks,

Well if it's on the way you're stuck with it and it's a start, if you're after a bit of boom boom then I'd agree its better than nothing.
If your gonna spend any more money tho, ask for some advise on here first.

eddietse91 · 16th January 2009, 13:14

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Originally Posted by McBain

Well if it's on the way you're stuck with it and it's a start, if you're after a bit of boom boom then I'd agree its better than nothing.
If your gonna spend any more money tho, ask for some advise on here first.

Hehe, Going holiday next month so gotta save money.. my parents are like, "Get them after holiday etc.." but hey i know.. just can't wait lol, recieved my pack yesterday,.,. looking at it.. i can't seem to find a wire for my sub? like the one from the sub to the box, or the sub to the amp? i've posted a thread on there but no ones replied yet so.. lol,
Cheerz!
I might just buy the JBL 527 after my holiday then.. it'll be better than the stuff i got now..

Ashleyp · 16th January 2009, 13:38

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Originally Posted by eddietse91

Hehe, Going holiday next month so gotta save money.. my parents are like, "Get them after holiday etc.." but hey i know.. just can't wait lol, recieved my pack yesterday,.,. looking at it.. i can't seem to find a wire for my sub? like the one from the sub to the box, or the sub to the amp? i've posted a thread on there but no ones replied yet so.. lol,
Cheerz!
I might just buy the JBL 527 after my holiday then.. it'll be better than the stuff i got now..

you didnt look at the links i showed you? for the same price you could have got good quality

not to be the grim reaper.. but legacy are one of the worst brands going.. id rather buy sony

McBain · 16th January 2009, 15:16

Well you've got a sub and amp now so when you get back from your hols and you want to get some more bits let us know.
If I where you I'd look at getting some decent comps up front next.