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4th April 2012, 21:11
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wanna get more power out of my vts on a low budget ?
basically bought a vts got a decat but still standard manny and its got a raceland induction kit what else can i buy to increase my performance without throwing mega bucks at it
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4th April 2012, 21:33
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Saxperience Hardcore!
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Full supersprint exhaust system,or just the manifold to start with.Doesn`t have to be new have a look in the for sale section.
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4th April 2012, 21:35
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Saxperience Hardcore!
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If all your concerns are is speed, take everything out bar the divers seat, belt and clocks.
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5th April 2012, 00:07
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Location: Wrexham, North Wales
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Car(s): Gold Saxo VTS & a Yellow S2000
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Get your spare wheel & keep tin of tyre weld in car. It'll be a start...
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5th April 2012, 00:27
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Power to wieght is key.
Get the grinder out and cut shit up.
Allowing the engine to breath more freely is a place to start, decent induction/filters, Exhaust..
JP4 heads can be bought cheaply nowadays aswell.
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5th April 2012, 01:18
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Go to the gym and lose some weight or stop eating, shave all the hair on your entire body off, wear less clothes.
seriously though remove everything you can from the inside, keeping only the essentials.
that should save you 50-60kgs possibly more
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5th April 2012, 10:04
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Good service - get the engine running the best it can!
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5th April 2012, 12:04
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You are not going to get much of a power increase on a low budget, full exhaust, decat, mani decent filter is gonna set you back £250+ and that with bargain hunting. The only way for noticeable power gains is cams + remap or throttle boddies.
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5th April 2012, 13:28
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Saxovch22
Go to the gym and lose some weight or stop eating, shave all the hair on your entire body off, wear less clothes.
seriously though remove everything you can from the inside, keeping only the essentials.
that should save you 50-60kgs possibly more
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You joke but that is true, where i train im carrying a good 20kg on the "average joe" and 20kg can make the difference.
Im bollocksed at go karting..
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5th April 2012, 13:36
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Originally Posted by MiniGibbo
You joke but that is true, where i train im carrying a good 20kg on the "average joe" and 20kg can make the difference.
Im bollocksed at go karting..
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im the same with karting, but its fuck all to do with training, more to do with being a fat bastard
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5th April 2012, 14:12
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I love go-karting, £20 for a 20min session is quite dear tho.
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5th April 2012, 15:28
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Shorter gearbox
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5th April 2012, 15:41
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Quote:
Originally Posted by stevo67
Full supersprint exhaust system,or just the manifold to start with.Doesn`t have to be new have a look in the for sale section.
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This...
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5th April 2012, 18:53
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2nd hand manifold - £80
2nd hand exhaust system - £120
2nd hand cams - £200
£400 later and you should be seeing around 135-140bhp. Then strip it out and save for a remap.
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9th April 2012, 13:34
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Quote:
Originally Posted by davefurio
basically bought a vts got a decat but still standard manny and its got a raceland induction kit what else can i buy to increase my performance without throwing mega bucks at it
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1. Take your cylinder head off and re-seat the valves, Skim the head. Clean the exhaust ports as they become restricted through carbon deposits.
2. Elongate the throttle switch.
3. Chop your centre silencer off and weld in a straight tube.
4. Advance the valve timing by 1 degree ( will take a lot of tweaking to get right).
5. Strip unwanted parts of the interior.
Your not going to see a great deal of improvement but these tweaks will give you the edge on what you already had and you have basically spent no money just time.
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9th April 2012, 14:47
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AJDEbon
1. Take your cylinder head off and re-seat the valves, Skim the head. Clean the exhaust ports as they become restricted through carbon deposits.
2. Elongate the throttle switch.
3. Chop your centre silencer off and weld in a straight tube.
4. Advance the valve timing by 1 degree ( will take a lot of tweaking to get right).
5. Strip unwanted parts of the interior.
Your not going to see a great deal of improvement but these tweaks will give you the edge on what you already had and you have basically spent no money just time.
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He asked for simple mods that actully aid performance, not bodges that wont add power in the slightest..
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9th April 2012, 15:05
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AJDEbon
1. Take your cylinder head off and re-seat the valves, Skim the head. Clean the exhaust ports as they become restricted through carbon deposits.
2. Elongate the throttle switch.
3. Chop your centre silencer off and weld in a straight tube.
4. Advance the valve timing by 1 degree ( will take a lot of tweaking to get right).
5. Strip unwanted parts of the interior.
Your not going to see a great deal of improvement but these tweaks will give you the edge on what you already had and you have basically spent no money just time.
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does seem like a lot of effort for not a lot of gain, if the head is off and its been skimmed and valves/ cams have been removed to reseat the valves then as joshb said why not spend another £200 on second hand cams(tbh if the head gasket is fine i wouldnt bother taking the head off, i paid about £120 for a head gasket kit and bolts which is a waste of money if the h/g is fine)
again why not buy a second hand supersprint center pipe for about £40 in stead of cutting and welding the original one
id take joshb's advise you will have a breathed, cammed car for relitively cheap and then get the cam timing and map sorted when youve got the money
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9th April 2012, 15:41
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Originally Posted by jeffchiz
does seem like a lot of effort for not a lot of gain, if the head is off and its been skimmed and valves/ cams have been removed to reseat the valves then as joshb said why not spend another £200 on second hand cams(tbh if the head gasket is fine i wouldnt bother taking the head off, i paid about £120 for a head gasket kit and bolts which is a waste of money if the h/g is fine)
again why not buy a second hand supersprint center pipe for about £40 in stead of cutting and welding the original one
id take joshb's advise you will have a breathed, cammed car for relitively cheap and then get the cam timing and map sorted when youve got the money
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Sorry I didn't phrase my reply properly, this would be for an absolute minimal budget what i suggested
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9th April 2012, 15:43
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MiniGibbo
He asked for simple mods that actully aid performance, not bodges that wont add power in the slightest..
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because you have a PHD in automotive engineering!
Did you know tweaking the throttle switch will give you more horse power than an ECU remap. Only if your in the trade you will understand why, not to the kid that plays around with his paxo, adding on bolt on goodies!
Last edited by AJDEbon; 9th April 2012 at 15:46.
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9th April 2012, 15:51
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AJDEbon
because you have a PHD in automotive engineering!
Did you know tweaking the throttle switch will give you more horse power than an ECU remap. Only if your in the trade you will understand why, not to the kid that plays around with his paxo, adding on bolt on goodies!
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can you point out this throttle switch tweak to me? if its something so simple i'll give it a go
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