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21st January 2011, 12:08
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I would go with a good 5w-40 synthetic, ideal for all year round use.
Loads to choose from here http://www.opieoils.co.uk/c-656-5w-40.aspx
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21st January 2011, 18:10
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Car(s): Race: 106 Rallye 16v. Road: Mercedes Vito 120 CDI
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Make: Peugeot
Model: 106 Rallye
Year: 1994
Engine size/type: 1598cc 16v
Any mods: 9100 rpm race motor with solid lifters/steel rods etc
Type of use: hillclimb/circuit
Additional info: Gripper dog box & plate LSD. 19 row cooler with stat.
What do you want a recommendation for: Engine & Gearbox.
Make: Citroen
Model: Saxo VTS
Year: 2000
Engine size/type: 1587cc 16v
Any mods: Breathing mods/cams/ECU
Type of use: road/track day/hillclimb
Additional info: Quaife syncro/helical box & ATB diff. o/e water cooled oil cooler fitted.
What do you want a recommendation for: Engine & Gearbox.
Thanks.
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21st January 2011, 19:40
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#843
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Not quite the standard Saxo and 106 there!
I'd use a 5w-40 or 10w-40 in both engines, probably 5w-40 in the Saxo as it will give better cold start protection and then a 10w-40 in the 106 as it will be marginally more stable for hard use. I wouldn't use anything basic, I'd go with Fuchs Pro S, Millers CFS, Redline, Gulf competition or Motul 300V.
http://www.opieoils.co.uk/c-656-5w-40.aspx
http://www.opieoils.co.uk/c-657-10w-40.aspx
With the 106 box you need a dog box suitable oil, so either the Redline Lightweight Shockproof, Millers CRX NT or Fuchs Syn 5. With the Quaife box in the Saxo, I'd go for the Fuchs Syn 5, it's what Quaife recommend.
http://www.opieoils.co.uk/c-673-75w-90.aspx
Cheers
Tim
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25th January 2011, 21:10
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what oil for a
vauxhall
astra mk5
sri 1.8 16v
2007
no mods just normal road use and the usual spirited driving
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25th January 2011, 21:24
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#845
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Citreon
Saxo
2003
Vtr
No mods, alot of moterway miles, not much hard driving. Just got the car so not sure what oils in it, should i just do an oil changr before i add anymore? Or will it not matter...
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26th January 2011, 12:46
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#846
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Quote:
Originally Posted by stu-n-shell
what oil for a
vauxhall
astra mk5
sri 1.8 16v
2007
no mods just normal road use and the usual spirited driving
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Here you go
http://www.opieoils.co.uk/product-fi...-finder-2.aspx
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26th January 2011, 12:49
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Azza_
Citreon
Saxo
2003
Vtr
No mods, alot of moterway miles, not much hard driving. Just got the car so not sure what oils in it, should i just do an oil changr before i add anymore? Or will it not matter...
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Hi
I would use a 5w-40 synthetic and you will find those through the link below.
http://www.opieoils.co.uk/c-656-5w-40.aspx
Out of those, the best ones are the Fuchs/Silkolene Pro S, Motul 300V, Redline and Gulf Competition. The Motul 8100 X-Cess, Millers XFS, Fuchs Supersyn and Mobil Synt S are good, cheaper alternatives.
As a budget choice, a 10w-40 will be fine and I would either go for the Fuchs XTR, Millers XSS or Motul 6100
http://www.opieoils.co.uk/c-657-10w-40.aspx
There's no need to do a full change if the car doesn't need one and just needs topping up.
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27th January 2011, 21:23
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Car(s): mk1 VTS (track), Mondeo Titanium X Tdci
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wanting your advice please
i currently use motul 8100 x-cess 5w-40, but im fitting a oil cooler so im changing my oil at the same time
i can get hold of 2 different oils, wondering which you would recommend, if any
shell helix ultra 5w-40 fully synth
or
Fulchs Titan 5w-30 fully synth
would be used in:
mk1 vts
1998
1.6
raceland induction kit
mocal oil cooler
car is for track use only
cheers
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28th January 2011, 09:24
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#849
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Depends on which Fuchs it is. If it's the Pro Race it's the better choice, otherwise it's the shell.
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28th January 2011, 17:30
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#850
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Location: Staines
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Car(s): Saxo VTS
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Hi Oilman,
Citroen Saxo VTS
52 plate
1600 16V
Wondfered if I could get a bit of advice on an oil change for my VTS. It is not a track car and I dont really thrash it, it has done 76000 miles but its currentlly noisy (sounds like a diesel) on cold startup. I have castrol magnatec 10w 40 in at the moment, I did this oil change about 6 months ago along with engine flush and new filter. I have been advised that the noise may be down to the oil loosing its viscosity, I thought I could add ZX1 to the new oil change to help reduce the cold start noise and also wondered if I should use a thicker 15w 40 oil as apose to 10w 40???
Thanks in advance for any help and advice you can give, really want to eliminate any further damage to my engine
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28th January 2011, 19:26
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#851
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Car(s): 206 RC 180
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what are the benefits of 5w 40 over 10w 40 for a 99 vtr, also what are the benefits of fully over part synthetic oils
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28th January 2011, 19:46
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You're thinking about it in the wrong way. You want an oil that's thinner when cold, so flows faster and gets around the engine quicker. With an oil like the Magnatec, it's 100% mineral oil based, so all the molecules are different sizes and the smaller ones evaporate and burn of fairly easily, leaving a thicker oil behind, so after six months, that 10w-40 may well be a 15w-40.
The best option is a 5w-40 as it will flow quickly from cold and 5w-40s are generally synthetic, so the viscosity will stay more stable.
http://www.opieoils.co.uk/c-656-5w-40.aspx
Out of those, the best ones are the Fuchs/Silkolene Pro S, Millers CFS, Motul 300V, Redline and Gulf Competition. The Motul 8100 X-Cess, Millers XFS, Fuchs Supersyn and Mobil Synt S are good, cheaper alternatives. Usually the best ones there are the ones that will keep the engine the quietest, but my brother used the Supersyn in his FTO that sounded like a bag of spanners and it now runs much better.
Avoid that ZX1 stuff like the plague. It's rubbish. I'm on my home computer so I don't have all the info with me, but we've had a report done on it and I can't remember if it's harmful or just a waste of money. All oil additives, other than the limited slip diff friction modifiers, are no good at all. Good oils contain all the engine needs.
Cheers
Tim
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28th January 2011, 19:48
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ramigojag
what are the benefits of 5w 40 over 10w 40 for a 99 vtr, also what are the benefits of fully over part synthetic oils
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5w-40 flows quicker from cold than a 10w-40 for better cold start protection. Synthetics last longer and give better protection than semi-synthetics.
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28th January 2011, 19:49
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thanks for the advice, ill look into it
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29th January 2011, 09:24
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#855
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Location: Staines
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Car(s): Saxo VTS
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Hi Tim,
Thanks for the advice, will get definitely get one of the 5w 40 you mentioned.
I’ve had a quick look at limited slip diff friction modifiers but am unsure if its just for gearbox, clutches etc or if you can add it to your engine oil??
Thanks again for your help, it’s much appreciated
Cheers
Gary
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30th January 2011, 16:11
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#856
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Hi Gary
Ah, should have said, the LSD modifiers aren't for gearboxes (they aren't for Saxos), but are for RWD LSDs, like in some BMWs, Jeeps etc
Cheers
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30th January 2011, 19:55
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#857
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Location: Bedfordshire
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Car(s): saxo furio 1.4
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been reading a few, cheers for all the info.
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5th February 2011, 23:26
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#858
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Location: Aberdeen
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Car(s): Wee Saxo 1.1
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Sxo
Forte
Year
1.1/ y reg 2001
Induction kit. Magnex Exhaust Sytem
Type of use (road)
Additional info (max oil temps, not sure current oil dont know what oil is in it as i only got it in december)
What do you want a recommendation for? Engine and Gearbox would be great im planning on changing them both.
Cheers
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7th February 2011, 09:51
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#859
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I would use a 5w-40 synthetic and you will find those through the link below.
http://www.opieoils.co.uk/c-656-5w-40.aspx
Out of those, the best ones are the Fuchs/Silkolene Pro S, Motul 300V, Redline and Gulf Competition. The Motul 8100 X-Cess, Millers XFS, Fuchs Supersyn and Mobil Synt S are good, cheaper alternatives.
As a budget choice, a 10w-40 will be fine and I would either go for the Fuchs XTR, Millers XSS or Motul 6100
http://www.opieoils.co.uk/c-657-10w-40.aspx
You need an MTF for the gearbox and I would go with the Redline MTL, Amsoil MTF or Fuchs Sintofluid. The Millers EP 75w-80 is a good cheaper alternative
http://www.opieoils.co.uk/c-670-75w-80-75w-85-mtfs.aspx
Cheers
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13th February 2011, 13:29
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#860
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Car(s): 16v'd White Furio & MK5 Golf R32
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Quote:
Originally Posted by oilman
As the title says this is the place for all oil related questions and hopefully over time it will build into a FAQ or reference point for others.
So, put your oil questions here but please give the following information if you would like a recommendation:
Make
Model
Year
Engine size/type
Any mods
Type of use (road/track)
Additional info (max oil temps, current oil used)
What do you want a recommendation for? Engine, Gearbox etc?
I hope this will help and become a useful thread
Regards
Simon
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Hello, could you recommend me some engine oil please:
Saxo VTS (1.6 16v)
It's a 2002 engine on around 60k
Mods are: Full Supersprint exhaust system including manifold, straight through (de-cat). Also have an S1 Rallye Gearbox fitted so revs generally sit higher, therefore making the engine work harder more of the time than if I were to have a VTS gearbox fitted.
Fast road use mainly, might see an odd trackday or rolling road.
Also do you sell oil filters?
Thanks in advance,
James.
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