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10th June 2008, 00:15
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Pipercross v BMC
i have been told that the pipercross viper is the best but off others that the BMC CDA carbon . . . what you think?
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10th June 2008, 00:25
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had a piper-x put me foot down and was al noise, also felt the car would lose power to.
now got a bmc, less noise and bit more go, go, go....
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10th June 2008, 00:29
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cheers rep'd
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10th June 2008, 00:30
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At the end of the day mate, it all comes down to can you justify spending an extra £100 for little difference between the 2. No induction kit, as covered before in plenty of threads is going to give you huge gains. I would imagine really both kits would offer the same.
Save yourself £100 get a BMC!
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10th June 2008, 05:29
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i would say the bmc
or a raceland
dont rate any others
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oh really.....
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10th June 2008, 07:37
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I'd definatly recommend the BMC CDA, not too loud can be heard mainly at low revs, good build quality, good bhp/torque gains compared to others, easy to fit and looks stunning under the bonnet especially when silicon hosing is added. Raceland is the cheaper option, still looks good under the bonnet but the build quality isn't as good, and it will be a biatch to fit! you get more sound from them compared to BMC's though! Pipercross are okay but not a choice I'd personally go for, just sound that's it but much better than K&N.
Hope that helps! 
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| Citroen Saxo VTR | Lowered 50mm on Apex Sports Suspension Kit | BMC CDA Enclosed Induction Kit | Powerflow Exhaust System | FLI 1000w 12" Sub with Built-in Amp |
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10th June 2008, 07:38
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BMC CDA FTW
Raceland FTW
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10th June 2008, 11:32
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Bmc all round better looks, easier to fit and same gains as raceland and maybe better 
As for pipercross the 'x' is on it because its not a worthy competator (sp)
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10th June 2008, 11:47
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I got a BMC and highly rate it. The noise is awesome and i feel a little gain (not much).
I've had a raceland in the past and that was also very good. Nice and quiet until you put your foot down. But prefer BMC.
I've never had a pipercross so i'm not going to comment on it.
Paul
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how big is it, edge to edge?
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14 inches or so.
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sorry bud, too big for me. GLWS tho
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10th June 2008, 12:34
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The main thing I consider with kits is the quality of the filter..
BMC and Green are at the top of their game IMO
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10th June 2008, 12:35
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raceland scoop with green filter element.
cheap, simple, gets the job done
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10th June 2008, 14:23
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ive got a pipercross viper and it is good, although if i was to change it id get the raceland with green filter for performance vs cost.
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10th June 2008, 19:40
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bmc for me. worth teh money imo , alot of people would tell you the same.
had a viper before and didnt make any difference to performance if anything made a bit slower?
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10th June 2008, 20:30
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ive never had a viper but i had a pipercross x on my old saxo and tbh made no difference what so ever
now ive got the bmc it much better i will definately recommend it
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10th June 2008, 21:06
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dont know what frankie is going on about i have a piperx viper induction kit and i cant hear a think from it. only time i ever heard a noise was when i nock the cold air feed of then it was loud. i think they are ok but not as bad as everyone seems to be saying. not all noise and wouldnt say i lost power
for looks i would go raceland just because it fills the engine bay, but if you are willing to play around with cold air feed i would go piperx viper and have a cold air feed out the grill
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