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20th April 2008, 19:13
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Newbie
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: buckinghamshire
Posts: 2
Car(s): 2000 w reg saxo vtr
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i need my mk2 vtr quicker?
alright people. sorry if i post this in the wrong place im new to this site.
i have got a mk2 2000 w reg saxo vtr (silver top 100bhp) its got a full stainless steel zorst system and a green cotton induction kit with air filter breathers but im starting to find it to slow i havnt got mega amounts to spend so whats the best thing to upgrade next?
cheers.
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20th April 2008, 19:17
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Saxperience Post Whore
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Near Hull
Posts: 8,405
Car(s): BMW 3.0 X3,toyota mr2 & Skyline R33
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GMC or raceland manifold?
Cam it?
btw your saxo is not a 100bhp its 90 bhp as I have a W reg vtr aswell.models in 2001 onwards have the 98bhp engine.
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20th April 2008, 19:17
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Established Member
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Thanet/Kent
Posts: 1,335
Car(s): 106 GTI, Audi S3
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ram effect induction maybe?
Manifold.
Cams.
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20th April 2008, 19:18
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Infrequent Poster
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: northwich
Posts: 105
Car(s): citroen saxo vtr
volkswagen polo mk2 saloon
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prob 4-2-1 manifold de cat and a remap would be the first i reckon!!!!
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20th April 2008, 19:19
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Saxperience Forum Bum
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Spalding-ish
Posts: 2,512
Car(s): Mk4 Anniversary golf. 106 Quiksallye
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Vts/106 xsi gear box. Will make a noticable difference to acceleration.
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20th April 2008, 19:20
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Newbie
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: buckinghamshire
Posts: 2
Car(s): 2000 w reg saxo vtr
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Quote:
Originally Posted by VtsTom
Vts/106 xsi gear box. Will make a noticable difference to acceleration.
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dose it, how?
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20th April 2008, 19:32
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Saxperience Forum Bum
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Spalding-ish
Posts: 2,512
Car(s): Mk4 Anniversary golf. 106 Quiksallye
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Single cam on a vtr.
285 profile is best suited to standard inlet/pistons. With a decent exhaust manifold, system, airfilter - add a cam with decent valve springs and vernier pulley, get a remap your looking at 120bhpish, maybe more maybe less.
VTS gear box has a taller final drive. Better aceleration yet reduced actual speed at rpm.
Xsi box has a even taller final drive.
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20th April 2008, 22:12
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Saxperience Post Whore
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: United Kingdom (England)
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Quote:
Originally Posted by VtsTom
Single cam on a vtr.
285 profile is best suited to standard inlet/pistons. With a decent exhaust manifold, system, airfilter - add a cam with decent valve springs and vernier pulley, get a remap your looking at 120bhpish, maybe more maybe less.
VTS gear box has a taller final drive. Better aceleration yet reduced actual speed at rpm.
Xsi box has a even taller final drive.
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Other way round - shorter boxes, higher rpm at speed!
Upgrade your brakes?
Strip the car lightweight wheels - power to weight is where its at!
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20th April 2008, 22:26
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Saxperience Forum Bum
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Spalding-ish
Posts: 2,512
Car(s): Mk4 Anniversary golf. 106 Quiksallye
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By taller i mean higher. The higher the number of the final drive, the shorter the ratios
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20th April 2008, 22:28
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Saxperience Post Whore
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: St Andrews United Kingdom (Scotland)
Posts: 7,384
Car(s): Green mk1 vtr/s and Focus zetec
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I wouldnt bother with any engine mods on a vtr, i'd fit bigger brakes and better suspension - that way if you upgrade to a vts you can take them with you, or revert to standard if you sell up and move on.
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20th April 2008, 22:37
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Newbie
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Surrey
Posts: 11
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Always remember that there will come a point when modding the VTR (unless you specifically want 8v supercharged power) where it will be better to just buy a VTS if you can afford the insurance mate. Even a mildly cammed vtr will struggle to hit the 60 dash quicker than vts, and certainly the 0-100mph times.
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21st April 2008, 16:38
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Established Member
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Coventry
Posts: 1,481
Car(s): mk2 Vtr & mk1 Tb'd Vts
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Quote:
Originally Posted by djmartin
GMC or raceland manifold?
Cam it?
btw your saxo is not a 100bhp its 90 bhp as I have a W reg vtr aswell.models in 2001 onwards have the 98bhp engine.
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sorry just have to say, ive got a Xreg 2000 mk2 vtr and ive got the 98bhp engine, some 2000 models rolled out with the 98bhp engine
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21st April 2008, 16:51
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Infrequent Poster
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Stafford
Posts: 147
Car(s): Saxo VTR MK2, BMW 318is
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i bet my vtr can beat a standard vtr to 60 and 100  but i also bet a vts with half the amount of mods would beat me lmao
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21st April 2008, 16:56
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West Midlands
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: West mids
Posts: 23,149
Car(s): Supra,civic GL
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Narbar
i bet my vtr can beat a standard vtr to 60 and 100  but i also bet a vts with half the amount of mods would beat me lmao
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ill give you a run lol!
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21st April 2008, 17:50
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Infrequent Poster
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Stafford
Posts: 147
Car(s): Saxo VTR MK2, BMW 318is
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lmao ill give u a run but if thats your mod list in your sig then i doubt ill win yours!
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21st April 2008, 18:25
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West Midlands
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: West mids
Posts: 23,149
Car(s): Supra,civic GL
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lol exactly narbar
i think to get the power from a vtr get a 4 branch and a cam and remap
could maybe get some head work depending on the budget youve got
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21st April 2008, 20:48
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Infrequent Poster
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Stafford
Posts: 147
Car(s): Saxo VTR MK2, BMW 318is
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mines got all that, and more
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21st April 2008, 21:05
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West Midlands
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: West mids
Posts: 23,149
Car(s): Supra,civic GL
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lend a had to the guy asking how to get power and tell him what your running then
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i passed over 5 years ago now. 3 points no crashes. I'm too good to crash...
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oh really.....
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21st April 2008, 21:36
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L-plater
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Haverhill
Posts: 38
Car(s): 1997 saxo VTS. On the way is the EVO 5!
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Why mod a VTR. Your gona spend money on cam, exhaust, induction and a remap for 130bhp. Why not sell and buy a vts get some breathing mods and have 130bhp.
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21st April 2008, 21:39
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Saxperience Addict
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Wirral
Posts: 13,584
Car(s): Wickerd red VTS MK2,
Two tone VTS MK2,vvc Metro..
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Get vts engine,and then modded it!!!.....
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