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22nd May 2009, 16:12
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Is VTEC overrated?
As the title says.
I mean don't get me wrong i love my VTEC but is it better to have a 'normal' engine which makes good torque throughout the range but lacks top end power and bad economy or lacking torque but makes excellent top end and has decent economy? I mean in order for my Honda to feel alive i need to be over 6k rpm and that's a pretty tall order usually on the roads.
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Last edited by Tommo87; 22nd May 2009 at 16:18.
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22nd May 2009, 16:13
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VTEC y0.
Had to be said.
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22nd May 2009, 16:14
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All personal choice.
Personally I dont see the hype behind it tbh. WHich is why I dont own a honda (appart from the fact they mostly are fucking ugly)
Much as how a boosted car owner might not see the hype behind any NA car etc...
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22nd May 2009, 16:17
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vtec is a figment of your imagination....
honestly i dont like the characterstics oh civic type r engines (only honda vtec i have experience of) too much revs for my liking.
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22nd May 2009, 16:18
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Wouldn't mind owning an Integ Type R
Jazz360 owns one iirc, ask him.
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22nd May 2009, 16:19
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im not fan personaly and for somw reason everyone who has a car with v tec on it seems to think its the fastest car in the world
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22nd May 2009, 16:20
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It's all about mivec tbh ;p
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22nd May 2009, 16:25
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Don't get me wrong they're an amazing feat of engineering but it sometimes gets a bit tedious having to go to above 6k all the time.
The thing with VTEC (especially the b-series) that gets people hooked is the noise change between the low lift and the high lift profiles which isn't so apparent on the newer k,f or h series engines.
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22nd May 2009, 16:25
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It's good in terms of doing a multitude of tasks, but at the expense of doing all those tasks well.
below VTEC you've got a quiet and relatively economical (with respect to the power it produces) engine, above VTEC you've got a sporty engine, but gobbles fuel a lot more compared to a normal engine of the same output.
also driveability is compromised a tad as it has that turbo lag transition (without the lag, you just have to wait till you hit VTEC before it kicks in)... but it's nowt to worry about or get fussy over.
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22nd May 2009, 16:27
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It's all about mivec tbh ;p
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Lol, MIVEC is even worse.
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22nd May 2009, 16:30
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Lol, MIVEC is even worse.
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Oh don't deny it. You share the love for MIVEC too
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22nd May 2009, 16:32
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my sig says it all
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22nd May 2009, 16:32
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VTEC does exactly what its supposed to. It makes a 'performance' engine drivable day to day, giving better fuel consumption and throttle response low down the rev range yet still giving good power when needed. You can then use a more peaky camshaft lobe for the performance, which is why they give good power but you have to rev it hard to get it....
Ryan manages to drive his car hard above 6000rpm so I dont see why VTEC owners cannot 
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22nd May 2009, 16:34
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Wouldn't mind owning an Integ Type R
Jazz360 owns one iirc, ask him.
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No he drives a taxi (accord) 
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22nd May 2009, 17:02
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22nd May 2009, 17:09
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I have a friends dc2 type r in at the minute with a loud exhaust and loud induction kit its quick you cant take that away from it but my god it attracts alot of attention and the noise increase on the change over is defening. and by the time you are in 3rd and on the vtec you are doing very illiagle speeds. so my personal opinion is they are overrated. i would much prefer an engine with low down grunt.
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22nd May 2009, 17:37
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Originally Posted by webby
I have a friends dc2 type r in at the minute with a loud exhaust and loud induction kit its quick you cant take that away from it but my god it attracts alot of attention and the noise increase on the change over is defening. and by the time you are in 3rd and on the vtec you are doing very illiagle speeds. so my personal opinion is they are overrated. i would much prefer an engine with low down grunt.
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Can get illegal speeds before 3rd gear without vtec
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22nd May 2009, 17:40
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personally think so yes.....
Used to like the hype but after being in a couple, felt a little let down to be honest.
Sounds fecking mint though.
depends if you can drive the cars properly to whether its worth it or not.
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22nd May 2009, 17:40
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my friend has a dc2 integra type R, its absolutely nuts and when it hits VTEC, its a real kick and the sound from it is amazing, honestly it sounds as though someone has just turned on gran turismo and put the volume up full, honestly, the noise is unbelievable
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22nd May 2009, 17:42
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Most cars will be doing illegal speeds if flat out in 3rd id have thought!
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