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15th June 2009, 00:30
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VAG 1.8T conversion thread
Seems to be a few people asking about different engine conversions but this is the only one i would have ago at my self rather than spending loads of a TU lump. They have MASSIVE potential and seem to be very strong. Also a 6 speed box available, not to mention a 4x4 drive train if your handy with a angle grinder and welder
Im sure it was the tweequed lad that mock fitted one in a ax and took a pic. Has anyone got it?
Anyone mock fitted one into a saxo/106 bay?
Pics and any info you care to share please
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15th June 2009, 02:06
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anything is possible, and to be fair, the 20vT is a fantastic and very capable engine.
a friend of mine is currently putting a 20vt in his renault 5, the engine is in, currently just sorting out transmission.
I can see if i can get pics of that if it is of any use to you?
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15th June 2009, 03:29
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you`ll be meaning this??
not sure how much room you`d have between the steering rack and turbo/manifold but ANYTHING can be made to fit with enough work... the diff also sits quite low compared to the MA box from what i gather too...
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15th June 2009, 07:07
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Quote:
Originally Posted by maddison_vts
anything is possible, and to be fair, the 20vT is a fantastic and very capable engine.
a friend of mine is currently putting a 20vt in his renault 5, the engine is in, currently just sorting out transmission.
I can see if i can get pics of that if it is of any use to you?
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Think there is already an R5 rocking the 1.8T 20V unit. So can be done. Is the R5 bay much bigger than a saxo?
Id quite like to see this done.
Are they heavy units in comparison to the TU lump?
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15th June 2009, 07:27
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yes there is a lad on rtoc called scoff who has a 20vt fitted in his 5 turbo, its very fast!
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15th June 2009, 08:28
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Difficult fit that one. The gearbox for it is massive and it will take extensive body reworking. If you with to go 4x4 I would recommend having a look at some of the early Subaru, Toyota, Mitsubishi and Nissan setups. If you are after FWD and easy fit for then something like the XU, EW or K series could work well. If you are going to fit a WV engine why not just get the V6 and stick it in the back?
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15th June 2009, 10:40
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Im just getting the leon with that engine fitted!
Very easy to tune.
Zorst, filter and map will easily see 220bhp!
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15th June 2009, 13:07
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Quote:
Originally Posted by slammed106
you`ll be meaning this??
not sure how much room you`d have between the steering rack and turbo/manifold but ANYTHING can be made to fit with enough work... the diff also sits quite low compared to the MA box from what i gather too... |
Thats the one.
Could allways get a custom bell housing and mate it to a BE box instead of using the vag ones? Would have liked to kept the 6 speeder though
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15th June 2009, 18:36
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Theres a clio with a 450bhp 20Vt in it. Stripped out and painted matt black. Aparrently its a fair tool.
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15th June 2009, 18:38
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bluespanner
Theres a clio with a 450bhp 20Vt in it. Stripped out and painted matt black. Aparrently its a fair tool.
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used to be an orange 1.2 lol!
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15th June 2009, 19:54
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bluespanner
Theres a clio with a 450bhp 20Vt in it. Stripped out and painted matt black. Aparrently its a fair tool.
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Originally Posted by Ryan
used to be an orange 1.2 lol!
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Was an orange 1.2, had a 2.0 clio engine put in with nitrous then a 1.8 turbo lump in. 400+bhp and a ph2 front end put on. 
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16th June 2009, 17:45
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i own a renault 5 with a 20vt conversion and i also own the matt blck clio 486bhp  a friend of mine just told me you lot were talking about my cars lol
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16th June 2009, 17:47
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Quote:
Originally Posted by maddison_vts
a friend of mine is currently putting a 20vt in his renault 5, the engine is in, currently just sorting out transmission.
I can see if i can get pics of that if it is of any use to you?
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id be interested in seeing this as thought mine was the only 1........... 
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16th June 2009, 18:04
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i'll get a photo then, i'll be round his garage tomorrow morning .
when he pulls his finger out it may see a road!
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16th June 2009, 18:06
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rushy_23
Think there is already an R5 rocking the 1.8T 20V unit. So can be done. Is the R5 bay much bigger than a saxo?
Id quite like to see this done.
Are they heavy units in comparison to the TU lump?
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i've never sat my saxo next to his 5 so don't really know about engine bay space, i'll ask him about weight.
as i said a moment ago, i'll be round his place tomorrow so i'll take a photo. 
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16th June 2009, 18:25
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Quote:
Originally Posted by minty83
i own a renault 5 with a 20vt conversion and i also own the matt blck clio 486bhp a friend of mine just told me you lot were talking about my cars lol |
I remeber the thread on CS of when you bought it when it was in a bit of a sorry state from not being used for a while. Great piece of automotive engineering when it was first done, and looks much nicer with the ph2 front end than the old ph1 lol!
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16th June 2009, 19:12
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Quote:
Originally Posted by maddison_vts
i've never sat my saxo next to his 5 so don't really know about engine bay space, i'll ask him about weight.
as i said a moment ago, i'll be round his place tomorrow so i'll take a photo. |
i have a 1988 renault 5 and a saxo vts and the saxo engine bay is a bit smaller and the renault 5 one seems more square
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19th June 2009, 01:19
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wheres these pics 
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19th June 2009, 07:07
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I'm suprised no ones thought about the 207 Gti engine in the saxo, thats a small light engine with good potential!
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20th June 2009, 08:34
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Isnt the 207 a multiplex loom though?
So a complete pita to wire up?
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