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22nd July 2009, 11:01
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cost of a fitting a vts lump?
does anyone know of how much dropping a vts lump or even a 106 gti lump in my vtr would cost? i seen alot of you have already done it and ive kinda had this planned from the start when i bought the car wen i save up enough money and wot not? by the way considering i am no mechanic or any clue with engines so it would all have to be professionally.. thanks alot guys lee...
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22nd July 2009, 11:06
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upto £400 labour.
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22nd July 2009, 11:28
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ahh cool and could i go to any garage for them to do??
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22nd July 2009, 11:49
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Yes I suppose, but id look for a garage that's done it before. Or does some form of tuning as they will be more experienced.
Also make sure you get the Ignition barrel, transponder and key with the engine you buy so you can unlock the ECU.
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22nd July 2009, 12:01
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ste
Yes I suppose, but id look for a garage that's done it before. Or does some form of tuning as they will be more experienced.
Also make sure you get the Ignition barrel, transponder and key with the engine you buy so you can unlock the ECU.
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You dont need the ignition barrel and the trasponder. If you get an unlocked ECU then your key will work
I paid a mate £200 to put mine in. He is a mechanic and done a vts conversion before.
Can buy mine already done if ya want
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22nd July 2009, 12:30
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sparco tom will do it for £250 if you get all the right bits
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22nd July 2009, 12:34
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I could do it, not far from you either. Depends when you want it done. Can source parts new and used pretty cheap too
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22nd July 2009, 13:49
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Ive been looking into this myself and ive found that we are looking at arond 800. 400 for the engine and 400 labour. But hopfully one of these nice SaxP people will sort you out on the cheap. Let us know how you get on.
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22nd July 2009, 13:59
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom
You dont need the ignition barrel and the trasponder. If you get an unlocked ECU then your key will work
I paid a mate £200 to put mine in. He is a mechanic and done a vts conversion before.
Can buy mine already done if ya want 
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There is that aswell but cheaper to unlock your own. Or buy a locked one and unlock it on someone elses car VTS.
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22nd July 2009, 14:05
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it would be cheaper to fit the 1.9gti 205 engine and pulls well in the saxo
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22nd July 2009, 14:15
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not heard of anyone running the 1.9 engine, info and pics pleasee!
me and mate took my gti engine out with a scaffold bar lol was tricky and its a heavy bugger but it did the job! if your doing sumit like this then take the top gearbox mount off completely before lifting it out, makes life so much easier
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22nd July 2009, 14:23
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yeah its been done mate, think it went in to a vtr shell, al try get some info on
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22nd July 2009, 14:23
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My brother is doing his VTR/S conversion and its cost him well into 4 digits now.
The thing is, whilst the engine is out you get tempted to rebuild it and make it mint. As its alot easier to do it all whilst the engine is out the car than in. Such as cambelt, other belts, water pump, full service.
Also while hes in the process of doing it all hes bought cams and is looking into throttle bodies.
I mean you could do it on budget and get a VTS engine and just fit it. It will put a smile on your face. But having a proper coversion set up with a half (i say half because if it was me i would of got the internals uprated) rebuilt engine that is going to last you many of years and be reliable will put an even bigger smile on your face.
Also bare in mind if your going to be giving it some thrashing whilst your putting your bigger engine in you should uprate the brakes and suspension. No point in having a saxo that can go fast in a straight line, might aswell buy a corsa if your after that (heh).
Cheapest way of doing it is selling your VTR and simply buying a VTS. This is what i would do if i was you. If you have big pockets i'd recommend doing what my brothers doing and do it all properly. I keep telling him to make a progress thread  He's spent thousands on his saxo and no one on this websites seen it yet.
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how big is it, edge to edge?
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14 inches or so.
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sorry bud, too big for me. GLWS tho
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22nd July 2009, 14:28
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lmao, im looking to do this, have found a gti engine for £100 but tempted to spend time doing the engine up while it is out of the car...
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22nd July 2009, 14:31
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i have to agree what is the point in spending 400 quid on all the vts bits u need and 400 quid labour ,to put a vts engine in a vtr people say my vtr has 150 bhp cammed ect no it is really a vts u just payed a shit load of money out when as said above u could sell the vtr and buy a vts and save a shit load of money and hassle
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22nd July 2009, 14:36
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search for a bargain vts engine and research doing the work yourself or sell up and get a vts really
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22nd July 2009, 14:43
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I spent 2k on my conversion just in parts lol. Uprated/replaced everything. Dont see the point of running the old 205 lumps though the VTS lumps just a more modern version of them and is a straight fit
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22nd July 2009, 16:16
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul
My brother is doing his VTR/S conversion and its cost him well into 4 digits now.
The thing is, whilst the engine is out you get tempted to rebuild it and make it mint. As its alot easier to do it all whilst the engine is out the car than in. Such as cambelt, other belts, water pump, full service.
Also while hes in the process of doing it all hes bought cams and is looking into throttle bodies.
I mean you could do it on budget and get a VTS engine and just fit it. It will put a smile on your face. But having a proper coversion set up with a half (i say half because if it was me i would of got the internals uprated) rebuilt engine that is going to last you many of years and be reliable will put an even bigger smile on your face.
Also bare in mind if your going to be giving it some thrashing whilst your putting your bigger engine in you should uprate the brakes and suspension. No point in having a saxo that can go fast in a straight line, might aswell buy a corsa if your after that (heh).
Cheapest way of doing it is selling your VTR and simply buying a VTS. This is what i would do if i was you. If you have big pockets i'd recommend doing what my brothers doing and do it all properly. I keep telling him to make a progress thread  He's spent thousands on his saxo and no one on this websites seen it yet.
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you're not brians brother are you?
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22nd July 2009, 16:22
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you can still get a few low miles 1.9 gti engines and go in pretty easy and tune up quite nice but yeah i agree the vts are good engines
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22nd July 2009, 18:14
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom
You dont need the ignition barrel and the trasponder. If you get an unlocked ECU then your key will work
I paid a mate £200 to put mine in. He is a mechanic and done a vts conversion before.
Can buy mine already done if ya want 
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i cant see this page mate as i havent got 100 posts yet or a premium member sorry anyother way of showing pics?
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