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2nd November 2009, 16:28
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what kind of power gains would i get?
got a mk2 vtr but its th mk1 vtr engine, its got a 4-2-1 stainless steel manifold,pipercross induction kit janspeed exhuast with a decat in it.
anybody have a rough idea how much of a gain ive got? cheers.
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2nd November 2009, 17:18
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Car(s): Saxo Mk1 VTr Blue
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about 0-6bhp
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2nd November 2009, 17:20
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you'v got your breathing mods so cam it next
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2nd November 2009, 17:22
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Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Liverpool
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Car(s): Saxo VTR
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What Pipercross? Open or enclosed?
Anywhere upto around 10bhp is achievable from breathing modifications 
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2nd November 2009, 18:06
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open so its more than likely losing power goin to get something enclosed then a cam 
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2nd November 2009, 18:18
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open isnt good, get an enclosed, and a cold air feed to it, reduce the heat soak.
by the time youve bought a cam mate, you could have thrown a vts in there lol
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Scot ish was a beast 4-5 years ago, and he has increased his beastness quite a bit since then I bet |
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Originally Posted by jw1325
I've seen pics of him and he's like Ayres Rock with tattoos.
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2nd November 2009, 18:23
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dont give me ideas:L
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2nd November 2009, 18:24
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theres plenty of people who would help you mate, its an easy conversion, i know haha
timmy got the TB'd engine in the xsi yet??
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Originally Posted by dondan
Scot ish was a beast 4-5 years ago, and he has increased his beastness quite a bit since then I bet |
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Originally Posted by jw1325
I've seen pics of him and he's like Ayres Rock with tattoos.
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2nd November 2009, 21:35
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Car(s): Citroen Saxo VTR 03 reg
Fiat Punto SX S reg (for
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thats probly running at like 95bhp if your lucky, old vtrs are slugs tho, i raced 1 earlier on a strip road near cnaterbury and i was gone!!
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2nd November 2009, 21:37
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Quote:
Originally Posted by saxvtr03
thats probly running at like 95bhp if your lucky, old vtrs are slugs tho, i raced 1 earlier on a strip road near cnaterbury and i was gone!!
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VTRs dont have that much difference, the 8bhp isnt really that noticable tbh
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2nd November 2009, 21:44
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its not mega amounts bt i confortably pulled away from the mk1..
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2nd November 2009, 21:46
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Quote:
Originally Posted by saxvtr03
its not mega amounts bt i confortably pulled away from the mk1..
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After how long did you pull away?
And things like the driver, how well its been maintained, driver weight, stuff in the car weight. Most cars lose a few BHP over time aswell. There really is nothing in it, suppose it helped a bit and you where probably the better driver
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5th November 2009, 11:59
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well it was afta turning of a roundabout, he gunned it away then i gunned it and by the time 3rd gear kiked in i was cruising past him lol
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5th November 2009, 21:28
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Location: norwich
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Car(s): 1999 vtr
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my 99 vtr with a viper,decat(but on the day was blowing like fuck) on a team dynamics rr made 96bhp so with a 4-2-1 mani got to be over 100bhp
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5th November 2009, 21:35
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Join Date: Aug 2007
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Believe me the 90 and 98bhp models there is a fairly noticeable difference all round, mind you my last 98bhp saxo was stripped.
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12th November 2009, 20:20
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L-plater
Join Date: Oct 2009
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i keep reading posts on various topics about power gains and people are stating 8bhp etc etc.
I run in the stock hatch championship with a Saxo VTR with about 35 other VTRs were all get about 120-130 bhp on our stock engine and we still have to use standard induction filters and inlets.
my car is 127bhp and been checked on 3 rolling roads about and been the same give or take 2bhp
best engine combination is
Mk1 head on mk2 bottom end as it highers compression running a pugsport system on standard exhaust manifold and MBE ecu! thats all
you will find 50% of the championship run the same spec and get the same power.
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