would this improve performance - Saxperience

Matt1-vts · 8th April 2010, 15:25

I been saving for a while now and tbh cant save anymore or i will end up
spending it on crap so going buy car stuff next pay day,
i have a 2001 VTS standard at the moment,

going start by buying

** Green Filters Direct Induction Kit. = £102.89
** 4-1 MANIFOLD = £ 338.23
** Newman PH3 Fast Road Camshafts - Citroen Saxo VTS = £352.50
** Remap = N/A

would that be a good start, would i see much improvement

bluenotesmiley · 8th April 2010, 15:33

Not many places remap the standard ECU so you would need to factor in the cost for a standalone ECU..

bluenotesmiley · 8th April 2010, 15:34

Oh yeah and cambelt kit which is another £100. You would also need trolley jack and axle stands if you don't have them as well as the tools to carry the work out but those are more of an investment.

JamesR^m · 8th April 2010, 15:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt1-vts

I been saving for a while now and tbh cant save anymore or i will end up
spending it on crap so going buy car stuff next pay day,
i have a 2001 VTS standard at the moment,

going start by buying

Green Filters Direct Induction Kit. = £102.89
4-1 MANIFOLD = £ 338.23
Newman PH3 Fast Road Camshafts - Citroen Saxo VTS = £352.50
Remap = N/A

would that be a good start, would i see much improvement

"Would this improve performance"

Yes it would a fair bit, although a 4-2-1 manifold would be better suited, and what exhaust system have you got?

Matt1-vts · 8th April 2010, 15:58

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Originally Posted by Saxo_vtr

"Would this improve performance"

Yes it would a fair bit, although a 4-2-1 manifold would be better suited, and what exhaust system have you got?

still undecided to which exhaust to have yet, all things listed are the things i decided on, things like exhaust etc still undecided,

which one would you reccommend, 4-2-1 manifold is a better choice then,
thanks matey

JamesR^m · 8th April 2010, 16:03

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Originally Posted by Matt1-vts

still undecided to which exhaust to have yet, all things listed are the things i decided on, things like exhaust etc still undecided,

which one would you reccommend, 4-2-1 manifold is a better choice then,
thanks matey

The most popular exhaust system is probably the Supersprint 2" race system and the supersprint 4-2-1 manifold off kam Racing. Not the cheapest of exhasut systems but the gains are good and the sound is awsome. Also it's stainless steel so has good longetivity

MiDnighTcLuB · 8th April 2010, 16:03

personally i'd just go for the cams and a remap straight away .. looking at about 150 bhp just from that and even more if you go standalone ECU

Matt1-vts · 8th April 2010, 16:09

thanks guys,

i have 4 weeks till i decided on what things im after so will do little more search google

JamesR^m · 8th April 2010, 16:20

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Originally Posted by Matt1-vts

thanks guys,

i have 4 weeks till i decided on what things im after so will do little more search google

Better still, search on here

xxo0pko0xx · 8th April 2010, 16:28

LMFAO if i was you buddy id buy the filter and manifold 2nd hand and buy a decat and a catnack system and a flywheel if you want to see power upgrades that whay you could work

** Green Filters Direct Induction Kit. = £30
** 4-1 MANIFOLD = £ 150
** Newman PH3 Fast Road Camshafts - Citroen Saxo VTS = £352.50
** Remap = N/A
Decat £30
Catback system £150
Flywheel £150

dont forget camshafts need a remap (500) and a cambelt change in order to use which if your not very good may land u with another 200 bill.

tbh if i was u id go

BMC direct induction
P&p TB
not much power gains maybe 7 max but a vts engine is quick and with a catback system and mani ull have a great sound and possibly a extra 8 ponys to add to a collection

JamesR^m · 8th April 2010, 16:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxo0pko0xx

LMFAO if i was you buddy id buy the filter and manifold 2nd hand and buy a decat and a catnack system and a flywheel if you want to see power upgrades that whay you could work

** Green Filters Direct Induction Kit. = £30
** 4-1 MANIFOLD = £ 150
** Newman PH3 Fast Road Camshafts - Citroen Saxo VTS = £352.50
** Remap = N/A
Decat £30
Catback system £150
Flywheel £150

dont forget camshafts need a remap (500) and a cambelt change in order to use which if your not very good may land u with another 200 bill.

tbh if i was u id go

BMC direct induction
P&p TB
not much power gains maybe 7 max but a vts engine is quick and with a catback system and mani ull have a great sound and possibly a extra 8 ponys to add to a collection

You mean a lightened flywheel? They DON'T increase engine BHP output at all. Also 7bhp off a BMC and a ported and polished throttle body? More like 2-3 from the BMC and none from the p&p throttle body.

Matt1-vts · 8th April 2010, 16:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxo0pko0xx

LMFAO if i was you buddy id buy the filter and manifold 2nd hand and buy a decat and a catnack system and a flywheel if you want to see power upgrades that whay you could work

** Green Filters Direct Induction Kit. = £30
** 4-1 MANIFOLD = £ 150
** Newman PH3 Fast Road Camshafts - Citroen Saxo VTS = £352.50
** Remap = N/A
Decat £30
Catback system £150
Flywheel £150

dont forget camshafts need a remap (500) and a cambelt change in order to use which if your not very good may land u with another 200 bill.

tbh if i was u id go

BMC direct induction
P&p TB
not much power gains maybe 7 max but a vts engine is quick and with a catback system and mani ull have a great sound and possibly a extra 8 ponys to add to a collection

im not doing the stuff myself matey, local garage is doing all the work.. yeah i know cambelt change is needs, i was just asking about the stuff would it add much performance,

stueebaby · 8th April 2010, 18:25

hello mate ive got the a 51 plate mk2 vts... i would strongly advise a 4-2-1 manifold with stainless exhaust with decat sounds the nuts and has gained a bit of power also induction to start with pipercross is a good one.... these would prob be the two things to start off with not to expensive if you shop around obviously at good quality

then start thinking about the more indepth stuff and dont get a remap until last.
my vts was rolling roaded at 143BHP november last year since then ive had a complete head rebuild an have noticed a good difference with the way the car runs.
But to get the 143BHP before the head rebuild its had 4-2-1 mani, custom stainless exhaust decat, induction kit, ported and polished head (gas blasted), and couple other small bits all this took it to that figure. so this is a good start before you think about cams etc

hard_corejoeboy · 8th April 2010, 18:52

Can't remember what the name is but there's a place in Hadleigh Essex that does remaps for saxo's which is nearish to you. Just over £200 i believe..

Matt1-vts · 8th April 2010, 19:05

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Originally Posted by stueebaby

hello mate ive got the a 51 plate mk2 vts... i would strongly advise a 4-2-1 manifold with stainless exhaust with decat sounds the nuts and has gained a bit of power also induction to start with pipercross is a good one.... these would prob be the two things to start off with not to expensive if you shop around obviously at good quality

then start thinking about the more indepth stuff and dont get a remap until last.
my vts was rolling roaded at 143BHP november last year since then ive had a complete head rebuild an have noticed a good difference with the way the car runs.
But to get the 143BHP before the head rebuild its had 4-2-1 mani, custom stainless exhaust decat, induction kit, ported and polished head (gas blasted), and couple other small bits all this took it to that figure. so this is a good start before you think about cams etc

thanks for all the info matey,, im thinking of getting the mani, induction kit and exhuast system first then go from there

stueebaby · 10th April 2010, 10:34

sounds good mate they would def be a good start

stueebaby · 10th April 2010, 17:40

yeah it has improved the performance of my car as long as its done properly and gas bored rather than just air cos it clears the the pipe out more thorough, you do notice the difference but not excessively if that makes sense.

Chr15 · 10th April 2010, 17:44

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Originally Posted by hard_corejoeboy

Can't remember what the name is but there's a place in Hadleigh Essex that does remaps for saxo's which is nearish to you. Just over £200 i believe..

AT Speed...

JamesR^m · 10th April 2010, 18:56

Yes throttle response is improved which helps performance in a way, but not actual power gains

Cammy · 10th April 2010, 20:49

Best mod I have is a full milltek and 4-2-1 it's unbeleivable how much torque and power I felt immediatly as it was back in my hands, should dyno the car before I consider getting cammed and see how much I gained, very expensive exhaust but worth the price, on the plus side, only a handful have the milltek so you won't hear a saxo alike it