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16th April 2010, 11:07
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Mocal Oil Cooler
I've searched some threads and found that the best bet for an oil cooler is a thermostatic sandwich plate so it only cools the oil when it reaches a certain temperature
Is the standard mocal kit one a thermostatic or is it just permanently open?
Sorry if thats a stupid question 
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16th April 2010, 12:19
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iirc the standard kit does not have the thermostatic it is an optional extra when purchased.. 
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16th April 2010, 12:24
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Originally Posted by SaxoMuffin
iirc the standard kit does not have the thermostatic it is an optional extra when purchased.. |
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The thermostat sandwich plates cost around £20 extra by the look of things...
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16th April 2010, 12:37
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okay sorry to highjack, i know obv the oil cooler cools the oil thus lowering engine temp but does it physically increase power or torque or does it just run smoother ??
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16th April 2010, 12:38
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i have one for sale, complete with braided lines AND a sandwhich plate, if anyone is intrested 
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16th April 2010, 12:46
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Originally Posted by MiDnighTcLuB
okay sorry to highjack, i know obv the oil cooler cools the oil thus lowering engine temp but does it physically increase power or torque or does it just run smoother ??
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I believe that by keeping oil cooler it helps maintain oil pressure. Hot oil doesn't flow so well.
It's mainly for cammed and turbo'd engines with raised rev limiters.
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16th April 2010, 12:54
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Ahh i seee... so basicly unless cammed or turbo'd there's no point in a standard car / saxo ??
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16th April 2010, 13:05
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Originally Posted by MiDnighTcLuB
Ahh i seee... so basicly unless cammed or turbo'd there's no point in a standard car / saxo ??
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Yeh.
It's mainly for track use anyway.
I saw a guy with i think it was a 106 turbo that covered the oil cooler with a carbon plate when driving on the road. Overcools the oil or something..
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16th April 2010, 13:06
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Originally Posted by Saxo_89
i have one for sale, complete with braided lines AND a sandwhich plate, if anyone is intrested |
How much mate? Does yours have a thermostatic plate?
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16th April 2010, 13:08
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Oh and thanks for the answers 
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16th April 2010, 20:42
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we do not supply a kit without the the thermostatic --unless specifically asked to £120+vat
for that very reason --normal diving + cruising would over cool oil
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17th April 2010, 21:21
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does that mean a thermostatic sandwich plate only lets the oil get to the filter once it reaches a certain temperature too? or only lets it go through the cooler when the temperature has been reached
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17th April 2010, 21:26
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pug106-GTI
does that mean a thermostatic sandwich plate only lets the oil get to the filter once it reaches a certain temperature too? or only lets it go through the cooler when the temperature has been reached
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It goes to the filter all the time and only opens to the cooler when it reaches 80 degrees if I recall.
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17th April 2010, 21:42
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oh ok mate
i got a seperate thermostat between my oil lines
come from the sandwich plate to thermostat then to cooler lol all mocal stuff
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18th April 2010, 09:24
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pictures of these fit? do you bin the standard vts cooler and pipes?
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18th April 2010, 15:51
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Quote:
Originally Posted by axsaxoman
we do not supply a kit without the the thermostatic --unless specifically asked to £120+vat
for that very reason --normal diving + cruising would over cool oil
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do these fit on the mk2 vtr with the oil filter being at the front of the engine?
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