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10th August 2010, 12:31
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Newbie
Join Date: Oct 2006
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tips on improving brakes and cooling on saxo
found this while ago on internet but never got around on trying it.
Im interested in your opinion on this article.
"Tip from Richard Turber about improving Saxo 1.0 and 1.1 brakes: "The brake servo has an pedal adjuster rod under a rubber cover which needed taking up a few turns, this noticeably improved the braking immediately. The rear brakes were still only just holding on a moderate incline and when I stripped them again after 1000 miles they had worn the adjusters smooth, thus no permanent take up on the handbrake. So I bought the cheapest linings I could find which came with separate, but much more robust looking, adjuster cams. I replaced the Citroen adjusters but kept the linings on, and bingo; excellent."
Further warning about rear drum brakes is that the linings are merely stuck to the shoes, can come unstuck and can seize the entire rear drum.
Some DIY advice from Brian Wright to anyone running the original 1.4 diesel: "The 106 1.4 diesel engine gets very hot. This is due to the fact that there is no premapped out circulation. The water around the liners and cylinder head get very hot and cannot move until the thermostat opens. Therefore the head gasket eventually blows. After replacing two head gaskets, one at 60,000 miles another at
80,000 miles, when I also skimmed the head, I sat down and pondered for hours as to what I could do to alleviate the problem. I did solve it and now my 106 has done 188.000 with no problems. The answer not only stops the engine overheating but there is now no problem filling it with water/antifreeze due to airlocking. Take out your thermostat. Drill a 1/16 dia hole top and bottom of the face and refit. This allows the weak pump fitted to the engine to pump enough water around to cool the necessary parts of the engine. The cooling fan is another problem as the stat fitted only comes in at an extremely high temperature when it is sometimes to late. Another tip. Do not let the engine idle for to long as the pump is so weak that at idling speed it cannot pump sufficient water around the system."
opinions?
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10th August 2010, 12:37
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Saxperience Post Whore
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: ilkeston derbyshire
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Car(s): C2 VTR stripped, 406hdi, clio 172
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the part about the brakes is spot on and the problems described about the adjusters and linings becoming detached are what we deal with weekly tbh.
as for the engine mods, i wouldn't like to comment though i do come across many Pug diesels with blown head gaskets or cracked heads. maybe mr. wright should have skimmed the head the first time round as 20k from a head gasket indicates an under-lying problem if the OE gasket lasted 60k?
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10th August 2010, 13:15
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Newbie
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Northampton
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Car(s): Saxo VTR
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good find mate, some spot on bits in there
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11th August 2010, 22:35
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L-plater
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Durham UK
Posts: 76
Car(s): I did own a Saxo, however my son has it now..
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My VTR overheats, well its my son's now but as he is away in the TA a lot of the time I run it every now and then.Last time I had the car out it overheated,the electric cooling fan coming on and off all the journey, the smell of the coolant was unbearable, I really thought at the very least I had blown the head gasket but no I could find nothing wrong with it.When the engine cooled a little I checked top n bottom hoses, both hot, hot air coming from heater blower so proof of circulation of coolant around the block.No water leaks and no oil or water exchange as in the water in oil or vice versa the symptoms of head gasket failure gotta admit I am stumped here, tried everything I know, can anyone help here please.
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11th August 2010, 22:43
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Saxperience Post Whore
Join Date: May 2009
Location: ringwood
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Quote:
Originally Posted by afn33
My VTR overheats, well its my son's now but as he is away in the TA a lot of the time I run it every now and then.Last time I had the car out it overheated,the electric cooling fan coming on and off all the journey, the smell of the coolant was unbearable, I really thought at the very least I had blown the head gasket but no I could find nothing wrong with it.When the engine cooled a little I checked top n bottom hoses, both hot, hot air coming from heater blower so proof of circulation of coolant around the block.No water leaks and no oil or water exchange as in the water in oil or vice versa the symptoms of head gasket failure gotta admit I am stumped here, tried everything I know, can anyone help here please.
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 if ever i'v seen one
any more info on where this adjuster is. my brakes are shit. it's the only way of saying it.
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11th August 2010, 23:00
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Saxperience Post Whore
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adjuster for linkage is just behind the engine on drivers side under a plastic cover
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11th August 2010, 23:01
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12th August 2010, 07:53
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L-plater
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Durham UK
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Thread hijack!!
[QUOTE=wadoryu;4625378]  if ever i'v seen one. Hey mate regarding your remark 'thread hijack'' I simply wanted some advice not some shit from you, I would not know about thread hijack I know bugger all about computers. In my day one had a ruler and a pencil yep that is how old I am.. needed some advice but you can shove it !
''WE DON'T GROW UP, WE JUST GROW OLD''
Any mods on here listening, please remove my post and put it somewhere else where I am likely to get some advice, and not some sarcastic remark..
any more info on where this adjuster is. my brakes are shit.
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12th August 2010, 09:35
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Saxperience Post Whore
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and another thread degenerates into a E-war
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12th August 2010, 09:49
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Saxperience Post Whore
Join Date: May 2009
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[QUOTE=afn33;4626150]
Quote:
Originally Posted by wadoryu
 if ever i'v seen one. Hey mate regarding your remark 'thread hijack'' I simply wanted some advice not some shit from you, I would not know about thread hijack I know bugger all about computers. In my day one had a ruler and a pencil yep that is how old I am.. needed some advice but you can shove it !
''WE DON'T GROW UP, WE JUST GROW OLD''
Any mods on here listening, please remove my post and put it somewhere else where I am likely to get some advice, and not some sarcastic remark..
any more info on where this adjuster is. my brakes are shit.
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woooo. dude i was just messing. generally when something is this far off topic you make another thead but. hey you cant really tell how old you are without looking. were not mind readers
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12th August 2010, 09:51
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Saxperience Post Whore
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mandyslover70
adjuster for linkage is just behind the engine on drivers side under a plastic cover
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cheers mate easy to find. now lets get testing
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12th August 2010, 11:15
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Newbie
Join Date: Oct 2006
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Id be interested to see how breaks tweak works. I have 1.1 saxo and it brakes like sh..
About cooling id check water pump ( think best way is to leave car on idling with rad cap off wait till thermostat opens and see if coolant is circulating) and check if fan kicks in on time ( when car is cold leave it idling and after about 10 minutes fan should kick in- if it takes lot longer you check sensor and relay)
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12th August 2010, 12:12
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L-plater
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Durham UK
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Car(s): I did own a Saxo, however my son has it now..
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mandyslover70
and another thread degenerates into a E-war
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No your quite wrong I'm done with this thread, the word assumption as in it makes an 'ASS' 'U' 'ME' comes to mind, this is what happens when people assume.. I regret asking what I did and as far as I am concerned I will not look at this thread again, my sincere apologies to all concerned Wadoryu included.. At 60 yrs of age, and experientially knowing just a little bit, gleaned from the years I owned and worked on motor cars, I really, on reflection, do not know why I bothered in the first place..
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