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20th December 2010, 09:56
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Magnet says no, its a 1.4 :)
Yesterday i had a saxp meet with a few sportifs and one vtr owner, I own a 1.4, I let the owner of the 1.6 8v give my car a go and he said its got to be a 1.6 due to how it went, i had a suspicion it could have been converted as prior to this car i have had a furio and it wouldnt stand a chance against this one.
It was either i had a vtr engine or it was mapped, i was told its been remapped but he didnt go into details so i didnt really beleive him.
Everything is pointing to the conversion simply because the speed of it and the fact i have 140mph dials in it that measure accurate.
For a start i could have never taken a furio past 105/110, in this i touched 120 and it could have kept going..
My question is:
How do i tell if ive had a vtr conversion?
What significant differences are there?
is there a different head size in mm?
an engine code somewhere?
certain wireing features?
Im not sure what to look for so anything a vtr has that a furio doesnt that i can see without taking the engine apart and getting a measuring jug out would be great!
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Last edited by KieranYeh; 20th December 2010 at 18:23.
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20th December 2010, 10:02
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Pic of engine?
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20th December 2010, 10:09
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I dont atm no....
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20th December 2010, 10:16
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20th December 2010, 10:23
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Its not an S conversion you bellend xD
Furio - R conversion
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20th December 2010, 11:30
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have a look at this link mate
http://www.saxperience.com/forum/showthread.php?t=87916
see if your engine is the same, thats how i found out , those are the different vtr engines and if you can take a photo post one up mate and guys here will let you know
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20th December 2010, 11:42
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Doesnt look like any of those, the dipstic is the same as the single plug engine but its a 3 plug ecu.. ill do some research quick 
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20th December 2010, 11:59
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Ive taken some pictures of the engine, as you can see its got a 3 plug ecu and a dipstic that sits to the right of the manifold.
Furio engines have the dipstic come up the front between the 4 pipes..
so this would suggest its a late vtr engine, however the late ones are single plug..
now im confused D:
Heres the number on the engine
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20th December 2010, 12:00
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furio engine:
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20th December 2010, 12:01
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Late VTR engines are 3 plugs, pre-2001 are single plugs..
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20th December 2010, 12:07
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As above, late engines are 3 plug. Earlier ones are single like mine.
Looks like you've either got a nippy furio or it's had a late vtr engine (98bhp standard).
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20th December 2010, 12:10
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or his car is fooked?
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20th December 2010, 12:11
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Its a furio engine, heres a late furio engine:
The earlier furio engines have a different location for the dipstic.
mines a late one so its got this engine
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20th December 2010, 12:14
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Quote:
Originally Posted by KieranYeh
Its a furio engine, heres a late furio engine:
The earlier furio engines have a different location for the dipstic.
mines a late one so its got this engine
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Thats the same as mine..W reg vtr... 3 plug.
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20th December 2010, 12:14
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Quote:
Originally Posted by welshpug
or his car is fooked?
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3 owners, 52 plate on 50k miles
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20th December 2010, 12:16
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Originally Posted by char69lie
Thats the same as mine..W reg vtr... 3 plug.
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have you got a lambda sensor on the top of the mani and the dipstic on the right side of the mani?
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20th December 2010, 12:16
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Mine...
Can anyone tell me what is that hose going under the ECU cover? ive seen people replace it.. but dont know where it goes.. what it is ect?
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20th December 2010, 12:20
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Quote:
Originally Posted by char69lie
Mine...
Can anyone tell me what is that hose going under the ECU cover? ive seen people replace it.. but dont know where it goes.. what it is ect?
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no lambda sensor on the mani.. and are you sure its a 3 plug?
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20th December 2010, 12:22
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Tbh.. im probably wrong.. someone did tell me.. i got told i have digi dials.. and the oppersite loom or something..
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20th December 2010, 12:41
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mines the same as those but single plug ecu
dipstick on the right and lamba in the manifold
cat in the exhaust and not in the manifold
i was told on here mines a early silver top vtr
not the first type vtr but the 2nd type out of the 3
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