Enclosed Induction Kit 1.5d

[Jamescl1992]

Ive been looking for an Enclosed Induction kit for my 1.5d but cant seem to find any that specifically say 1.5d on them, would any induction kit for a saxo fit on it ?

[KrisB]

A universal one will fit if you make it fit, but seriously... There is no point at all, N/A diesels sound crap with filters on, just makes them sound more like a tractor.

PS, i'm not being bias, i have a 306 dturbo, of which i've fitted a direct fit K&N into the original airbox.

Kris

[JonCarter]

Leave it, not really worth it on a diesel, save up and get a 306 dturb or hdi, n/a diesels sound a tractor enough without putting open parts on them. Sorry bud but that's the score on derv

[ianharrris]

Hi James.
I have a 106 1.5d. i have a K&N cone filter, which i thought I'd buy cos' it was cheap
i have noticed a difference in throttle response, so if you CAI is cheap enough, i feel it's worth it. I made mine fit using the original pipework.
The 1.1 engine looks to have the same airbox, so if it fits one of them, it should fit your diesel.

Ian

[devilsadvocate]

Originally Posted by ianharrris

Hi James.
I have a 106 1.5d. i have a K&N cone filter, which i thought I'd buy cos' it was cheap
i have noticed a difference in throttle response, so if you CAI is cheap enough, i feel it's worth it. I made mine fit using the original pipework.
The 1.1 engine looks to have the same airbox, so if it fits one of them, it should fit your diesel.

Ian

You sure you noticed a difference ?

[stevo67]

Its really not worth the time and effort doing it save your money mate.

Steve.

[Manu]

i have noticed a difference in throttle response, so if you CAI is cheap enough, i feel it's worth it.

ROFL. Probably a psychological difference due to the increased amount of noise, I reckon he gained half a brake mouse power. Is your diesel not noisy enough?

[ianharrris]

Mmmm, pleased to see all of the considered responses from 1.5d owners.
Oh none of you are!! Sorry.... Still feel free to comment on an engine you know nothing about.
As you noted, I didn't say there was an increase in power - I said there was better throttle response. This can only ever be subjective, but it was enough to make me keep the filter, which took all of 5 mins to fit and cost £7.
Considering that a 5% power increase would only be 2.9bhp, if the filter is cheap go for it.

[Jamescl1992]

Originally Posted by ianharrris

Mmmm, pleased to see all of the considered responses from 1.5d owners.
Oh none of you are!! Sorry.... Still feel free to comment on an engine you know nothing about.
As you noted, I didn't say there was an increase in power - I said there was better throttle response. This can only ever be subjective, but it was enough to make me keep the filter, which took all of 5 mins to fit and cost £7.
Considering that a 5% power increase would only be 2.9bhp, if the filter is cheap go for it.

Ive got a K&N panel filter in the standard airbox and when i put it in i noticed a slight improvement in throttle response also, was just wondering if a bigger gain could be Achieved with a more expensive induction kit.

[ianharrris]

I say go for it James.
Better engine breathing can only be a good thing

[chinkostu]

Originally Posted by Jamescl1992

Ive got a K&N panel filter in the standard airbox and when i put it in i noticed a slight improvement in throttle response also, was just wondering if a bigger gain could be Achieved with a more expensive induction kit.

nope. i will admit you do get a slightly better response (certainly felt it on the 1.1) but thats just from it being able to breathe better

[devilsadvocate]

Having owned a 1.5d I feel that I'm qualified to reply

Your best bet is to get a replacement aftermarket panel filter to replace the standard one. Getting an induction kit is a waste of time on any car unless you go for an enclosed one and they are £150 for a decent one and on a diesel that's 150 quid down the drain

[AXracing]

Throttle response is actually more down to sound making you believe you get better response. You can take your air filter off totally and your exhaust off at the down pipe and you will think your flying. But the reality would be the engine would be running rather poorly. As for an air filter on a 1.5D as people have said just about any universal one can be made to fit. I would not do it purely as I would not want one sounding any more like a tractor then they already do.

[-shuggles-]

save the money towards another car, enjoy the car for what it is because It is very unlikely to get any power from a filter

[Barry123]

Originally Posted by devilsadvocate

You sure you noticed a difference ?

have you ever experienced the throttle response on a 1.5d?

around a 3 week lag between stomping on the megapedal and actually revving the engine

edit: apparently you have. whoops

[ianharrris]

Anything that can help the engine perform better is good - although I take the point that a CAI for £150 isn't going to yield a lot of bhp per £. However, as in my case, if you can pick a good, used one up for lttle money, off Ebay, you can fit it and then decide what you think, rather than have people tell you what they think.
If you don't feel a difference, put it back to standard and sell the CAI.
If you do feel a difference, kep it and then 'debate' your new found throttle response with other forum members.

I'm not sure why a panel filter, in an already restricted and convoluted air feed would be better than a cone filter feeding air straight into the manifold without restriction? Bearing in mind that we are talking about a 1.5d that makes 58bhp. I don't even think a CAI would give any bigger benefits than a cone filter to such an agricultural engine. The point is that diesels (especially n/a) function entirely differently to petrol engines, with intake and exhaust being the areas that respond most effectively. as I've said before, even a small increase may be insignificant to you, but if it increases engine efficiency and is a cheap mod it has to be good.

I don't listen to the noise, so I don't 'feel'as though i'm going faster. i only know that living in Dartmoor, where it is full of hills, I can pull a taller gear for longer. i also use a dash of 2 stroke oil for lubrication, and I have found this a help also.
Obviously, i expect that claim to be rubbished as well, which is why I say - if you feel the difference then that's what matters....

[devilsadvocate]

Originally Posted by adsayer

have you ever experienced the throttle response on a 1.5d?

around a 3 week lag between stomping on the megapedal and actually revving the engine

edit: apparently you have. whoops

Three weeks and two days actually