Cylinder head - Saxperience

Jase125 · 18th January 2011, 23:18

I got a vtr cylinder head conning this week wanting to do some work on it I'm going to put a Newman ph3 cam in, just wondering what other things I can/ should do to the head ad in like skimmed etc. Cheers.

Ryan^p · 18th January 2011, 23:22

if the heads not warped then skimming it for no reason can be stupid long term. It gives you less metal to play with if you ever have a HG failure and warping.

so be careful if spending on alot of headwork you dont reduce the margins for failure

Jase125 · 19th January 2011, 08:37

Okay thanks mate, what can I do to it for bit better performance?

Tyanu888 · 19th January 2011, 08:48

I had a similar head of AX Gti (1360cc) had it skimmed for better compression! If you ask the engineer to take off a bit but not too much just in case you need to re-skim in future.
Porting will help a lot! They will know what to do. Otherwise once done map the ecu!

Jase125 · 19th January 2011, 13:23

So should i get it skimed or not? ill get it ported deffo, is it a good idea to put new vaulves in etc or keep the old ones in?

Jase125 · 19th January 2011, 18:26

Anyone help me out ?? cheers

Dave_P · 19th January 2011, 18:29

For what it'd cost to skim & port a head properly you could buy/fit a 16v and have more power.

Jase125 · 19th January 2011, 18:34

already bought a head! i was thinking about getting a vts engine in but insurance is more... ive been getting prices from people to fit a vts lump to much for my liking

Jase125 · 19th January 2011, 18:35

or you could just buy a vts.. witch i dont want to do becasue i like my car the colour etc

stevo67 · 19th January 2011, 19:55

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Originally Posted by Jase125

or you could just buy a vts.. witch i dont want to do becasue i like my car the colour etc

A lot of people on here have done a vts conversion if you`ve got mates to help you all the better(cuts down costs)& you learn about car mechanics at the same time.

Steve.

Jase125 · 19th January 2011, 20:00

I just think doing a vts conversion is alot of work? cus whats actually needed??

stevo67 · 19th January 2011, 20:05

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Originally Posted by Jase125

I just think doing a vts conversion is alot of work? cus whats actually needed??

If you have a search mate you`ll find its been covered loads & to some extent with guides how to`s etc.

Steve.

Jase125 · 19th January 2011, 20:12

okay cheers mate

adamskiTNR · 19th January 2011, 20:19

I wouldn't spend out on expensive head work when you are only running ph3's and a pretty standard setup. you will not get rewarded much for your outlay

blackie_2k5 · 19th January 2011, 21:09

tbh, unless your going turbo or supercharger the gains really arent worth it, on a good boosted set up you can see 20-40bhp from good headwork(depending on the head to start with)

but even on a very expensive tb set up youd be lucky to get 10bhp, does help somewhat with power curve etc, but as adam said its not worth it in your case

plus ppl dont often realise that saxo heads really arent that bad flowing to begin with

Jase125 · 19th January 2011, 21:20

I know what your saying, cheers for the advice looking in to 16v it!? just thinking about few things like driveshafts & vtr box can you use them with the vts engine? & a non vtr/s drivers side mount?? & the vts transmission mount? Can you just clear up on if i need them bits etc? Cheers.

Jase125 · 20th January 2011, 20:21

My head came today, What head work can i do?? Port & polish? Sensible things really dont want to go ott with the head, would it be better to get new vaulves & springs or not??

toxic · 22nd January 2011, 18:32

Search to see what people have done to there engine and what mods are good, take your time doing it. I have a VTR with ported and polished head and kentcam and when that was done the price would be the same as a vts conversion, so do your research before you go ahead m8.

danny-boi · 22nd January 2011, 18:55

tbf just giving it a little skim would probably be worth it you never know when it might go so might as well give it a skim while its off. saves you money for the future

Tyanu888 · 22nd January 2011, 19:58

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Originally Posted by danny-boi

tbf just giving it a little skim would probably be worth it you never know when it might go so might as well give it a skim while its off. saves you money for the future

I agree 100% with Dan! Skim it whilst you can! you can certainly gain out of it!