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Old 23rd January 2011, 19:55   #1
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Hi Guys,

This is my first post here so I apologize if this has been answered.

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I got in my car today (Citroen Saxo 1.1 1999) and reversed out of my drive. Pulled away in 1st, changed into second and something felt funny with the The gear stick. Now, the gear stick travels fully from left to right (ie the 1st position to the 5th position). I can use the clutch as normal, but no matter where I put the stick, forward or backward (except neutral) all I can get is 2nd or 3rd (not sure which gear it is, but its only one).

When I got the car, I believe it had a similar problem and that was the gear linkage.

Any ideas what this may be and how could I fix it.

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Old 24th January 2011, 17:45   #2
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Mine's just started playing up. On my way home from work i really struggled to get in to 1st, 2nd, and 3rd. Reverse crunched like fcuk too.
There was a clicking sound when i had the clutch fully pressed in.

I'm thinking i might need a new gear linkage/ gear selector linkage. Hopefully i wont need a new clutch though?

This car's a pain in the arse.
And i've got a pain in my bloody hand from trying to change gears!

The thing is, when the cars turned off, they all select perfectly too? This is whats confusing me.

I don't know much about cars too

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Old 24th January 2011, 17:50   #3
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Probably just a bent or popped off linkage in both cases, new one's are defintely worth buying, i'd recommend pug plus one's.
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Old 24th January 2011, 18:02   #4
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Probably just a bent or popped off linkage in both cases, new one's are defintely worth buying, i'd recommend pug plus one's.
Cheers. I can't find any pug plus ones though?

I did find these from google.
http://www.106parts.com/s2/page1.php?area2=2&area3=14

would i need the whole lot do you think?

A mate said it could be the sync too?

I just need it fixed as i'm supposed to be driving down south next month for work
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Old 24th January 2011, 22:03   #5
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Cheers. I can't find any pug plus ones though?

I did find these from google.
http://www.106parts.com/s2/page1.php?area2=2&area3=14

would i need the whole lot do you think?

A mate said it could be the sync too?

I just need it fixed as i'm supposed to be driving down south next month for work
it's not your syncro mate.

Pop your bonnet and check your gear linkages.
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Old 26th January 2011, 11:18   #6
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Well just ordered a full linkage kit and a new gear selector. Will fit these on sunday. With a bout of lick this should solve the issues. Will also check the clutch cable and give it a tighten as there seems to be a lot of play in the peddle.
I that fails then I will be looking at new clutch. The thing is, I got quoted 350 supply and fit. Ouch!
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Old 26th January 2011, 22:24   #7
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hey lads have you tryed changing your gearbox oil? this helps for easier gear changes same happened to my car and i changed the gearbox oil and now its really easy when warm or cold.
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Old 26th January 2011, 22:43   #8
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Well just ordered a full linkage kit and a new gear selector. Will fit these on sunday. With a bout of lick this should solve the issues. Will also check the clutch cable and give it a tighten as there seems to be a lot of play in the peddle.
I that fails then I will be looking at new clutch. The thing is, I got quoted 350 supply and fit. Ouch!
350 supplied and fitted,lol!! 195 supplied and fitted for a Valeo clutch, 350 is called rape
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Old 27th January 2011, 08:51   #9
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350 supplied and fitted,lol!! 195 supplied and fitted for a Valeo clutch, 350 is called rape
Tell me about it! 4 hours labour minimum they said too. The clutch was 106 for a LUK one. Trying to find a better garage at the moment.
will do the linkage and change oil first and then see what its like. Shame I don't live local to you!
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Right. Well i have changed the loinkages and selector unit. It now goes in to 2nd, 3rd, 4th and 5th fine. Still wont go in to 1st and still crunches when i try to get it in to reverse.
Will change the box oil one night this week and try to tighten the clutch cable (if i can find the fucker!)

Beginning to piss me off now.

Also, i have a BM quickshift ( i think) that i got for a present. I tried to fit this earlier on to the linkages but it fouls wherever i try to fit it. Either on the cabling or on part of the bay. Do i need to re route the cables for it to fit?

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Check your roll pin, Mines worn down and its a bit anoyying trying to get it to go into first.

http://www.saxperience.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=339820

Also before you buy linkages check them, my linkages are in good shape but got movement left and right. To change the pill i got a center punch and hammer and hammered it out easy. Oh btw part number for a new one is C250924.
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Its exactly what rumble said.

I took a bolt and turned it down in a lathe to 6.88mm (iirc) for it to fit snug but not too tight.

Its the one on top of the gearbox directly under the airbox.

Dont need new linkages or anything
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Old 3rd February 2011, 20:05   #13
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Its exactly what rumble said.

I took a bolt and turned it down in a lathe to 6.88mm (iirc) for it to fit snug but not too tight.

Its the one on top of the gearbox directly under the airbox.

Dont need new linkages or anything
I take it you get to it by the top then or do you still need to get under the car to do it?
Dont suppose you have any pics of it do you?
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Tell me about it! 4 hours labour minimum they said too. The clutch was 106 for a LUK one. Trying to find a better garage at the moment.
will do the linkage and change oil first and then see what its like. Shame I don't live local to you!

joke i can do a saxo clutch out, new in ,in under a hour if pushed ,most of the time is filling the box up after lol i think the quickest we did one was 45 mins
sure we could do it faster with air tools but dont like to use them can be trouble then there worth
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this is starting to happen to me, i have to really pull ther gearstick into reverse or if i take my foot of the clutch and try to move, it just cruches like fuck
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