Has my engine seized :( - Saxperience

johnbaird85 · 22nd April 2011, 12:01

Was driving last night, and heard a bang from the engine, well it was more like a blow, i thought i had blown a tyre, but the car cut out. Wouldnt start, tried to turn voer engine, but when i turn key, it clicks once like it is going to start but wont.

Me and my old boy, put car in gear and managed to rock it back about 2 foot and forward about 2 foot, but it then jams and wont go any further.

Has my engine seized, great question, any help appreciated??????

also there was oil leaking from it, only know coz there was oil on the AA ramp when i got home.

Is it worth while me removing spark plugs and trying to turn it over by hand, if any1 has any suggestions, would be great

cheers

blackie_2k5 · 22nd April 2011, 12:27

remove the spark plugs and check them for oil/debris, then remove cambelt cover and see if you still have a cambelt,

move on from your findings

sound like your cambelt has snapped or the tensioner given up, could also be piston/big end/rod failure, sure it wasnt leaking oil before or that oil is from a previous break down?

johnbaird85 · 22nd April 2011, 12:37

cam belt cover is not on so i know for defo that it aint snapped, i dont know if it may have jump a tooth or so with the timing, but was thinknig of removing spark plugs and turning by hand.

was meant to be swapping cars last night, 4 hours before i swap my car dies, its so shit lol

johnbaird85 · 22nd April 2011, 12:38

oh aye , and i dont know if it was leaking oil, but it did tend to burn oil a lot, and had to top up every month or so, put oil in a couple of weeks ago from memory, cheers for your help btw

blackie_2k5 · 22nd April 2011, 12:40

after reading your last post id most likely aggree your car has seized, something has failed due to lack of oil IMO

johnbaird85 · 22nd April 2011, 12:45

sound, cheers for your help, was just wondering as ive had a look on internet and it says if you put it in gear and try and rock it back and forth "if it doesnt move" then its seized, but puzzled me that it moved back and forward a foot or so, its just crap coz i cant even afford a new engine atm

RustySkull · 22nd April 2011, 12:47

Hmm, sounds like lack of oil to me, shame

johnbaird85 · 22nd April 2011, 12:50

tell me about it lol, i was just about to swap for a 106 gti that night as well

is it worth trying to fix this one, or just dumping a vts in it?

devilsadvocate · 22nd April 2011, 12:53

Surely the easiest way to find out is to undo the drain plug and see if any oil comes out?

If there is a minimal amount or even none then I think you have your answer...

johnbaird85 · 22nd April 2011, 12:54

i would try that, but i tried to put 1 litre in after it died to see if i could manage to rock it.

col101 · 23rd April 2011, 19:44

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Originally Posted by johnbaird85

sound, cheers for your help, was just wondering as ive had a look on internet and it says if you put it in gear and try and rock it back and forth "if it doesnt move" then its seized, but puzzled me that it moved back and forward a foot or so, its just crap coz i cant even afford a new engine atm

That's probably just play in the gearbox. An good engine with good compression (which yours sounds like it doesn't have) won't move more than a foot or 2 either.

Take plugs out, in neutral and turn it by hand is best advice an take it from there.

titchster · 23rd April 2011, 19:46

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Originally Posted by johnbaird85

i would try that, but i tried to put 1 litre in after it died to see if i could manage to rock it.

So drain that. If about a litre comes out, then it's only the stuff that you put in that's in there...

adzvtr · 23rd April 2011, 23:06

are you sure its engine oil, maybe gearbox oil?????
could have blown the box.
only saying cause i blew my box once and the car did what ur explaining.

VTS123 · 23rd April 2011, 23:29

As said above, best way to check if engine has seized is take the spark plugs out and turn it over using a socket on the end of the crank. Make sure the gears are in neutral first though!
You could try engine and gearbox together by putting it in top gear and pushing the car. Resistance to pushing is lowest in top

Gareth_R · 24th April 2011, 07:24

If you don't have cam covers then somethig might have flicked up into the belt ad caused it to jump teeth

Or as above, something in the box or clutch has blown causing it to jam

simonwillis1988 · 25th April 2011, 00:11

Jack the front of the car up and put something under one of the wheels (so it wont move) and spin the other wheel, if it spins then your engine is not seized and if it gets (compression) tough to turn every now and then then your valves should be okay too. also the other possibility of the belt skipped some teeth and what you heard was something like valve damage as said above. good luck

johnbaird85 · 26th April 2011, 15:19

cheers for all your replies, took rocker cover off, had a play about, think its the bottom end thats away, as car wont start even with clutch pressed to floor. im guessing if it was the gearbox then it would still start if the clutch was in.

Think i might just need to sell it on, how much do you think i could get for it as a non-runner.?

shaneio · 26th April 2011, 15:35

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Originally Posted by johnbaird85

Think i might just need to sell it on, how much do you think i could get for it as a non-runner.?

what is it?

Gandi699 · 26th April 2011, 15:47

Have you tried turning the engine by hand to see if there is compression? get a compression tester too

johnbaird85 · 26th April 2011, 15:56

Saxo vtr, Black, angel eyes, slight tints, induction kit, twin duplex powerflow exhaust, standard interior, lowered at front, dtm mirrors, drilled and grooved front and back disks. Saxo vtr wheels.Piper cam vernier pulley. aftermarket cams.

Mot till september, taxed till end of june

i took plugs out and turned by hand, , with belt off top end turns fine, but with belt on gets so far and jams.

might take the head off this weekend and check the damage, dont know if i can just buy a bottom end from scrappies or whatever?