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21st September 2011, 11:05
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Ebay oil cooler/ relocation kit.
Well I've decided to go boost and I've started sourcing parts. Has anybody had experience with these as I think the local ones are 200+ I know il need a stat as well.
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21st September 2011, 18:39
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I don't run a stat tbh. I'd buy a quality one mate, I bought one off eBay and it leaked a lot. Your oil is like your blood, you lose that your engine and turbo dies. I skimped out on it and luckily caught the massive leak before I drove. Ripped it out and installed a mocal kit. Much better. 
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21st September 2011, 18:42
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You dont need a stat.
Use genuine mocal. Doesn't have to be braided. Kit is about £130 all in.
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21st September 2011, 18:43
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Buy one with a stat.
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21st September 2011, 18:48
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave_P
Buy one with a stat.
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+1
(If you drive like a girl).
-1
(If you don't).
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21st September 2011, 20:57
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I don't drive like a girl. Cool. Il get the mOcal one then. Won't I need a remote filter if I'm running a turbo or would a r5 one do? Cheers for the replies.
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21st September 2011, 21:00
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RossDagley
+1
(If you drive like a girl).
-1
(If you don't).
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No, its just the smart thing to do as it regulates the oil temp... 
Do you run your water without a stat...? Didn't think so.
Last edited by Dave_P; 21st September 2011 at 21:51.
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21st September 2011, 21:11
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as above run with a stat
you dont want to be overcooling oil its very bad.
ive got a genuine mocal kit with braided lines and sandwich plate and stat & brand new brackets and bolts
£100 posted buddy
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21st September 2011, 21:50
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Good deal that.
Overcooling oil? Never heard of that. My oil temp sits at 0 until my normal water temp gauge is just by half, then oil temp starts to climb. Basically I warm the car up for a few mins before I drive, especially on a morning. And by the time I'm off my drive and end of street my oil temps warming up.
Really don't see the need for a stat....
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21st September 2011, 21:53
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Quote:
Originally Posted by stevo1600
Good deal that.
Overcooling oil? Never heard of that.
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Its when you oil doesn't get up to temp, self explanatory really...
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21st September 2011, 22:00
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How can your oil not get up to temp when your engines running? Coolers are good but they don't stop oil from warming up.
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21st September 2011, 22:01
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Will I need a remote filter tho with a turbo?
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21st September 2011, 22:02
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I monitor my oil temp electronically and it's generally in the 90-110 range depending on abuse levels. Even on a motorway stint at 60mph, and with my mocal in direct unrestricted airflow I don't recall it dropping below 85.
The only important thing imo is to keep the oil temp above the water temp, but try to maintain it within about 10 degrees of it.
Regarding oils, it's also very important (again, in my opinion) to run as narrow as possible a range of oil - it's often tempting to run a 5w50 oil, but with this large range, the polymer content is very high and you actually dont get the best out of your oil.
You know I'm only teasing you Dave
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21st September 2011, 22:03
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wolf_gsxr
Will I need a remote filter tho with a turbo?
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depends on your manifold/turbo.
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21st September 2011, 22:04
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You don't have to but I'd recommend it mate. Filters can melt behind hot turbo/mani the R5 filter is a small one though I believe so you could get away with it.
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21st September 2011, 22:04
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Quote:
Originally Posted by stevo1600
How can your oil not get up to temp when your engines running? Coolers are good but they don't stop oil from warming up.
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Because the cooler cools the oil too much because it doesn't have a stat fitted.
Do you run a stat in your water? If you don't your water temp doesn't climb up to optimum operating temp... same thing really.
I shouldn't need to explain this you should i?
Iirc the oil cooler stat opens at 90 deg.
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21st September 2011, 22:07
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the problem with running an oil stat and a relocated filter is untill the oil is up to temp its not being filtered
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21st September 2011, 22:11
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tweeqd
the problem with running an oil stat and a relocated filter is untill the oil is up to temp its not being filtered
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you could get one of those inline stats, rather than the takeoff plate ones. That'd at least solve that concern.
Tbh, I don't plan on changing mine to have a stat. I guess in the winter it might be different - I didn't actually consider the winter as I don't drive my car then. That's something to consider 
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21st September 2011, 22:12
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Yes please  my oil cooler doesn't over cool my oil, it's sits around 85 and climbs when I give it some abuse. Then cruising it will drop but not below 85. So I struggle to understand how it would be over cooling. When it's sitting at 85 degrees.
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