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5th November 2012, 22:53
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Cleaning my engine
So I'm a new to the saxo scene but wanna clean up my engine so it looks half decent seen this and it looks nice wot kinda stuff do I need to mine somewhere near this clean???
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6th November 2012, 00:43
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I'd say time, effort, bit of polish, perhaps some paint and a steam cleaner. Might get you close enough. Also attention to detail always shines through!
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6th November 2012, 00:51
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This is mine just a bit of paint and a wipe over
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6th November 2012, 21:37
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Originally Posted by barwell1992
This is mine just a bit of paint and a wipe over

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Lambda on 1 pipe?
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Last edited by Prickle; 6th November 2012 at 21:44.
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6th November 2012, 22:48
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Lambda on 1 pipe?
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yup its a 3 plug so lambda on top and one lower down with a reducer to trick the ecu into thinking it has a cat but keeping the fueling correct
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6th November 2012, 22:50
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yup its a 3 plug so lambda on top and one lower down with a reducer to trick the ecu into thinking it has a cat but keeping the fueling correct
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Ah right. Fair enough.
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6th November 2012, 01:50
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6th November 2012, 21:27
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as above time and elbow dont bother spending big bucks on chrome bits.
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6th November 2012, 21:41
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If we are ASW-ing.....

Currently usually requires just leaves picking out of places really!
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6th November 2012, 22:54
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Surely you'd be better with green lambda plug in the bulk section, where the most gas flows, ie 4-2-1, where it becomes 1
Think that's what prickle is getting at, then sleeve the blue plug
That's what I've done on mine anyway!
4-1 manifold, green plug at the base of manifold, blue plug sleeved!
You can get little plugs for the manifolds too, so you could move the lambda around!
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6th November 2012, 22:59
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Originally Posted by dolby20
Surely you'd be better with green lambda plug in the bulk section, where the most gas flows, ie 4-2-1, where it becomes 1
Think that's what prickle is getting at, then sleeve the blue plug
That's what I've done on mine anyway!
4-1 manifold, green plug at the base of manifold, blue plug sleeved!
You can get little plugs for the manifolds too, so you could move the lambda around!
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Yeah.
If it has no cat wont it overfuel anyway?
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6th November 2012, 23:02
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I have gone from brand new cat to full decat, fuel consumption hasn't changed significantly!
Used to get 320 miles to a tank - urban driving/commuting
Now get 300 :/
Can still easily get 400 motorway miles if doing 60/70! So nothing to lose sleep over really
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6th November 2012, 23:10
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Shouldn't be in one pipe only
Not gonna fuel right and if any of the other cylinders run rich or lean you won't know
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6th November 2012, 23:15
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no to derail but both of my lambda plugs are in the manifold and not sleeved, the lower one fits in to the manifold by a extender with a pin hole opening this is just enough for the lambda to sense the gas and because of the reduced flow of gas the ecu thinks the cat is doing its job
ps my mani lambda plug holes are in to single header pipe's (upper in one pipe and the lower in another) not the collector, i have never had a problem
this is the extension i made, it threads into a bored and tapped blanking plug and the lambda then screws into that and then the whole lot into the mani
Sorry for derail
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6th November 2012, 23:17
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Originally Posted by barwell1992
no to derail but both of my lambda plugs are in the manifold and not sleeved, the lower one fits in to the manifold by a extender with a pin hole opening this is just enough for the lambda to sense the gas and because of the reduced flow of gas the ecu thinks the cat is doing its job
ps my mani lambda plug holes are in to single header pipe's not the collector
this is the extension i made, it threads into a bored and tapped blanking plug and the lambda then screws into that and then the whole lot into the mani
Sorry for derail
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Oh i see.
And i wouldnt worry about the de-rail. OP posted it in the wrong section anyway.
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6th November 2012, 23:28
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lambda business is fine. its common to see them like that and run fine.
as for engine bay, to make look lovely:
remove ecu/tray from inner wing
remove fuse box from inner wing
remove battery
remove air box
then, scrub and scrub until there is no dirt anywhere. g101 works well or just fairy liquid ...
clean all removed components and put them back in place.
then buy:
new exhaust heat shield from citroen.
new top lambda sensor.
rocker cover gasket
then remove your rocker cover, sandblast or wire brush it then paint it colour of choice and refit with the new gasket.
then with a fine brass wire brush and some alloy cleaner give the cylinder head a scrub up and then a polish.
should look pretty spic and spam then.
did the same to my bay only had a 4/2/1 instead of shiny heat shield.
car was on 72,000 at time of picture
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6th November 2012, 23:40
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If your main lambda is only sensing one cylinder
Then how does the ecu know what the fueling is doing on the other 3?
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6th November 2012, 23:46
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Originally Posted by blackie_2k5
If your main lambda is only sensing one cylinder
Then how does the ecu know what the fueling is doing on the other 3?
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it can't but for £90 new i dont mind that much, vts is on the cards so i'd rather spend money on that than the 8v
but the reducer/spacer does work better than a sleeve
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6th November 2012, 23:56
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It was more aimed at Matt that said it'll be fine lol
If one of your cylinders go lean or rich then you'll never know.. So not not fine really haha
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6th November 2012, 23:58
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Originally Posted by blackie_2k5
It was more aimed at Matt that said it'll be fine lol
If one of your cylinders go lean or rich then you'll never know.. So not not fine really haha
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ahh ok
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