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21st August 2006, 10:43
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Open induction Kits
Well im lookin to get an open induction kit, just want to know what's the best one to get? im lookin to spend around £100, i want to a nice roar but will it sound loud all the time? or just when u take it over so many rpm?
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21st August 2006, 10:52
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They are very loud, especially when coupled with an aftermarket backbox.
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21st August 2006, 10:56
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a friend of mine has a K&N which ant loud untill u put ur foot down a little. Iv got a remus boxbox, but am lookin to get a powertec open induction kit. Any1 know wot there like?
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21st August 2006, 10:57
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Pipercross would be my choice for sound matey!
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21st August 2006, 11:02
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Originally Posted by Dan
Pipercross would be my choice for sound matey!
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wots the difference between the pipercross and powertec? also can u adapt the original airbox so that the kit sits almost inside it to help shield from heat?
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21st August 2006, 11:21
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Originally Posted by Dan
Pipercross would be my choice for sound matey!
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if your going for an open air matey, then pipercross is spot on cost you bout £90ish though! and yes it will only let out a roar at higher revs or when you floor it, al induction kits are the same!
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21st August 2006, 11:24
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Originally Posted by saunders
also can u adapt the original airbox so that the kit sits almost inside it to help shield from heat?
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no you cant adat the airbox to accomodate an induction kit, but if your not bothered about the noise or don't want any noise then buy a replacement filter mate k & n do them i think! but get an induction kit imo beatuiful roar!
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21st August 2006, 11:30
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Originally Posted by S34MER
no you cant adat the airbox to accomodate an induction kit, but if your not bothered about the noise or don't want any noise then buy a replacement filter mate k & n do them i think! but get an induction kit imo beatuiful roar!
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Cool well looks like ill be orderin a pipercross then, just thought the powertec ones were better?
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21st August 2006, 11:35
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you thought wrong then matey!!! lol!  :
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21st August 2006, 11:41
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Originally Posted by S34MER
you thought wrong then matey!!! lol!  :
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Cheers think ill order one when im bk from my hol.
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21st August 2006, 11:50
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Airfilters
The main difference between the three cones that have been talked about are what they are made of.
The K&N 57i is made from Cotton
The Pipercross is made from Foam
and The Powertec is made from Stainless Steel
All three will improve the way the engine rev's plus free up some usefull ponys too, if your looking for all out noise then I would personally would go a cotton cone filter like K&N or Green.
I've had two S/S filters on different cars like a Powertec/Blitz style and was alittle bit dissapointed with the lack of noise but in their defence they do look good (Thats why I bought a second one)
Before you part with your cash take a good look around see whats on the market, compaire prices and Don't forget about eBay, there are some nice looking 'Unbranded' inductions kits at fantasic prices. Sometimes you pay alot for a name!
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21st August 2006, 11:53
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Quote:
Originally Posted by VTS_16v_Boy
The main difference between the three cones that have been talked about are what they are made of.
The K&N 57i is made from Cotton
The Pipercross is made from Foam
and The Powertec is made from Stainless Steel
All three will improve the way the engine rev's plus free up some usefull ponys too, if your looking for all out noise then I would personally would go a cotton cone filter like K&N or Green.
I've had two S/S filters on different cars like a Powertec/Blitz style and was alittle bit dissapointed with the lack of noise but in their defence they do look good (Thats why I bought a second one)
Before you part with your cash take a good look around see whats on the market, compaire prices and Don't forget about eBay, there are some nice looking 'Unbranded' inductions kits at fantasic prices. Sometimes you pay alot for a name!
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Cheers well ill have a look around n see how much they all are n weight them.
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21st August 2006, 11:56
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My mate has a K+N, it's very quiet below 3k but at 3k you can hear it, at 4k it turns really loud all the way to the redline!
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21st August 2006, 12:01
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I have a K&N 57i Gen 1. As with all of them it only roars really when you floor it, and it roars all the way through second, and is loudest and deeper in third but you obivously get to hear it as much because most roads are 30 so you cant really put your foot down. The higher the gear the deeper the growl is aswell, its really low in fifth
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21st August 2006, 12:08
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Right iv decided to get a pipercross one, just need to check the model cos iv seen some cheap ones on ebay.Ive got a furio x reg 1.4 so wot model to i need? i think its pk120 right?
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21st August 2006, 17:09
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[QUOTE=VTS_16v_Boy]All three will improve the way the engine rev's plus free up some usefull ponys too QUOTE]
No they won't !!!!
Open induction kits will loose power but have a deeper roar
Enclosed kits will gain small amount of power and have a subtle note to them
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21st August 2006, 17:19
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Daz, open induction kits are fine if you give them a cold air feed.
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21st August 2006, 17:27
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no it wont, standard is better
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21st August 2006, 17:32
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ry_B
Daz, open induction kits are fine if you give them a cold air feed.
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With all respect mate your wrong
An open filter will always be an open filter no matter how many or how good your cold air feed is.
Im not saying to dont buy an open air filter im just saying you will loose performance and gain sound !!!!
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21st August 2006, 17:38
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Ry_B is right, if you give them a cold air feed they will improve performance, as the induction kit is situated at the rear of the engine, away from the manifold etc, so it will be cooler! all this bullspit about open air filter getting hot and warming the air and the car loosing performance is poo. They are designed to stand hot temps. i think pipercross would have thought about it as one of the first things when they built it!
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