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14th October 2006, 21:04
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westcoast
Iv heard westcoasts are not that far behind vtrs in power so will a 4 branch manifold, full exhaust system, decat and filter make it possibly the same?
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14th October 2006, 21:10
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1.1 westcoast? or 1.4
i think either way and with those mods you wont be near vts standards tbh.
all those mods proberly 15 bhp if your lucky... but thats my opinion
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14th October 2006, 21:23
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westcoast is a mk1 so im presuming you are referring to a mk1 vtr.
in which case there is only 15bhp difference.
not sure on the mods mind
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14th October 2006, 22:24
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lol@ 15bhp for those mods. try half that if you're lucky. and a vtr will still rip you for torque although iirc you have a slightly shorter gearbox (final drive). don't bother spending money tuning the 1.4, put either a vtr bottom end on it or just vts it (you could pick up a decent 16 valver for the cost of a full exhaust, manifold and filter, as long as you fit it yourself the cost will be near enough the same).
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14th October 2006, 23:52
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Lol m8
Manifold
De-cat
Exhaust
Induction kit
That is more than 7bhp, I can tell you that for nothing... Even if you got 20 bhp off them mods which you cant it would only be matching a vts, even then a vts has a shorter gear ratio i think so it will still win
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14th October 2006, 23:58
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1.1 westcoast? or 1.4
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1.4 is WestCoast, 1.1 is the EastCoast. Both Mk1 :thumbup:
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15th October 2006, 00:00
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Sorry i didnt relise
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15th October 2006, 00:02
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thats ok no worries
As for the topic question it would take plenty more £££ for a westcoast to match a VTR. Ud have to dig deeper into your pockets
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15th October 2006, 00:15
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I say VTS lump
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15th October 2006, 00:50
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ye i no it wont touch a vts!! am starting getting the outside done ready for respray xmas time so if i like it maybe thn ill think bout a vts conversion! cheers tho
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15th October 2006, 01:53
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Josh_Phipps
Lol m8
Manifold
De-cat
Exhaust
Induction kit
That is more than 7bhp, I can tell you that for nothing... Even if you got 20 bhp off them mods which you cant it would only be matching a vts, even then a vts has a shorter gear ratio i think so it will still win 
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Wont be much more than 7 mate. Wont be anywhere near a vts.
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15th October 2006, 02:09
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i thought he wanted 2 be close a to a vtr... not vts
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15th October 2006, 14:24
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Josh_Phipps
Lol m8
Manifold
De-cat
Exhaust
Induction kit
That is more than 7bhp, I can tell you that for nothing... Even if you got 20 bhp off them mods which you cant it would only be matching a vts, even then a vts has a shorter gear ratio i think so it will still win 
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you keep believing what you read in max power mate, personally i live in the real world where real bhp increases cost real money.
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15th October 2006, 14:52
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the 1.4 saxos are slower than the vtr's but they do keep up on set off until the higher end of the revs then the vtr's just pull away
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16th October 2006, 00:23
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lol ye i do live in the real world! i do mean a vtr not vts sorry my fault i worded it wrong when i started the thread! shouldv put vtr's........i no it wont be any where near a vts most of my mates have gtis and they really go......think best option is to get the outside done then save for conversion!
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16th October 2006, 00:26
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those mods your looking at 10 bhp im thinking,
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16th October 2006, 00:26
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Ill soon have a dyno to see what difference its made.
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