sorry to sound thick

[sax51]

but am reading a few threads on superchips and people are saying there a waste of money then you go onto talking about remaps hay gose what is a remap and how much are they i thought thay were the same

[SNewham]

I think you'll find that superchips are off the shelf and not mapped specifically to your car.

[stiffler69]

im getting a remap on saturday i thinks its around £290 plus vat so not to exspensive really its the work running upto the remap wich can cost alot

[dui_yoursax]

a remap is when you chip is set to your setup eg:air filter,cams ect.ect
a super chip is a set up to a basic rev limit raise and dont realy give you a good out come from your mods

[Sean]

A superchip was probably very good on the car it was originally mapped on, however the problem lies with the fact that this original map is then copied and sold to be fitted to other cars of the same model, thus making it a generic map ie not mapped specifically to a particular car, as no two engines come out of the factory with the same tolerances etc. Also there is no real need to alter the ecu map unless changing the fuelling or ignition (ie by camming or boosting).
Remap is when the specific car is put on a rolling road, or driven in the case of a live map, with an initial base map to get it up and running. the base map is then fine tuned to take into account both the modifications and how the engine behaves in terms of fuelling and ignition at many specific points throughout the power range.

[KamRacing]

a super chip is a tweaked Map still for a 'generic' car in the same way as a standard ECU has a generic map.

These could never be as good as a custom map for your car

[Sean]

Originally Posted by KamRacing

a super chip is a tweaked Map still for a 'generic' car in the same way as a standard ECU has a generic map.

only major difference being the standard ecu has a degree of self-learning built into it

[sax51]

if i had a piper cross filter 421 manifold and a full stainless would i gane anything getting a remap them ????????

[hesslevtr]

Originally Posted by sax51

if i had a piper cross filter 421 manifold and a full stainless would i gane anything getting a remap them ????????

yes you would but not much

re maps are only really needed for when you have a cam, throttle bodies and foreced induction

lose the piper filter for an enclosed 1

[S34MER]

we need to get this stickyfied! lol its a great thread and it explains alot! plus the topic is starting to become more of a regular one. Sean work your magic son!

[KamRacing]

Originally Posted by Sean

only major difference being the standard ecu has a degree of self-learning built into it

true but its not optimised for performance.

Its a compromise with such nonsense as fuel economy / emissions as important factors.