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30th December 2006, 14:25
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vts nos
been looking at nitrous for my vts and been reading into how it works/what it does etc. just wanting anyones opinions on if its worth it on only a 1.6 engine.
and before anyone says it. no i dont think im from fast and furious 
oh and my cars standard apart from raceland cold air intake, magnex de-cat piper cat-back
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30th December 2006, 14:39
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there is alot more that would be worth while doing before you do that mate, PM GOD106GTI he is running throttle bodies, port and polished head and some other stuff and now he is putting nos in it. without the nos at the minute its running 152bhp at the wheels - YESSSSSS
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30th December 2006, 14:56
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It will work but could do some damage if not used right! It does add alot of strain on the engine
Also, it is worth doing stuff to a 1.6, if thats what you want to do then do it, the only car that in theory you wouldn't want to make faster is a bugatti veyron in my eyes.
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30th December 2006, 14:56
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Bloke in my area put a 50 bhp shot of nos in his VTS wasnt cheap set up either, was racing a VTS with all the usual breather mods and the other one was pulling away, then he set off the nos and it flew but the engines tapping like a bastard now so hes taken it off.
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30th December 2006, 15:02
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Originally Posted by Mark51
there is alot more that would be worth while doing before you do that mate, PM GOD106GTI he is running throttle bodies, port and polished head and some other stuff and now he is putting nos in it. without the nos at the minute its running 152bhp at the wheels - YESSSSSS
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cheers mate, i was thinking i dont have the money for TB's, cams etc etc but just want something to add that extra power
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Originally Posted by Ben_Saxo
Bloke in my area put a 50 bhp shot of nos in his VTS wasnt cheap set up either, was racing a VTS with all the usual breather mods and the other one was pulling away, then he set off the nos and it flew but the engines tapping like a bastard now so hes taken it off.
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any idea how likely it is to damage the engine? say if im only using it now and again?
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30th December 2006, 15:02
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Alrite thought my ears were burning!!! Yes i'm running 152bhp at the wheels and i'm going for either a 50shot or even a 75shot. but i'm running a mini maxi setup which puts its in slowly an not all at once. Keep away from the cheap kits are shit talk to wizards of NOS an they'll tell u mate.
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30th December 2006, 15:05
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Im, no expert mate this bloke wasnt really into reinforcing the engine and doing it properly he just fitted the most expensive kit, within reason, think it was about 600 quid. Regrets it now though. Like God said give the pros a ring
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30th December 2006, 15:10
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GOD106GTI
Alrite thought my ears were burning!!! Yes i'm running 152bhp at the wheels and i'm going for either a 50shot or even a 75shot. but i'm running a mini maxi setup which puts its in slowly an not all at once. Keep away from the cheap kits are shit talk to wizards of NOS an they'll tell u mate.
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lol! well the two kits im torn between are one of the 'wizards of nos' kits or one of the 'dynotune' kits, was going to buy off the internet but i probly would be better phoning up. both the kits ive looked at havnt said anything about a mini maxi setup i dont think. i was only going for the small 50hp shots tbh
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Originally Posted by Ben_Saxo
Im, no expert mate this bloke wasnt really into reinforcing the engine and doing it properly he just fitted the most expensive kit, within reason, think it was about 600 quid. Regrets it now though. Like God said give the pros a ring
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been looking at them for around 400. confuses me like fuck this
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30th December 2006, 15:18
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lol i know its confusing mate. Just give those in the know a ring. One thing i do know though is that its meant to be ebtter for your engine and for power gains if you start off with small shots, and then work your way up.
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30th December 2006, 15:25
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well right wizard of NOS mate they the best an they no there stuff. you have to add it to the setup mate. will cost more than £400 tho.
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30th December 2006, 15:28
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Originally Posted by GOD106GTI
well right wizard of NOS mate they the best an they no there stuff. you have to add it to the setup mate. will cost more than £400 tho.
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alright people thanks for your help. ill let you know how i get on.
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30th December 2006, 16:41
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I wouldnt bother with it personally, would rather spend it on other bits first like manifold, cams etc.
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30th December 2006, 17:57
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan
I wouldnt bother with it personally, would rather spend it on other bits first like manifold, cams etc.
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just want to be different tbh, i could get cams and im getting a manifold anyway in 2 weeks time but after id have it cammed id want something faster as i would have another years no claims and a payrise,
so id rather get some nitrous in it so at least its different to everyone elses plus i can always say i used to have a VTS that was gassed
more fun aswell than it been cammed as its just a button with power on it so not always powerful, just when i want it to be
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30th December 2006, 21:44
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a question for god, what WON kit have you got/ would i need?
is it the SB100i?
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31st December 2006, 03:47
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do you live your life a quater mile at a time?
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31st December 2006, 14:07
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dsh85
do you live your life a quater mile at a time?
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u bender
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31st December 2006, 15:31
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nitrous will only damage an engine if its not fitted and setup right
it creates a cleaner burn so is better for the engine than normal air, the reason it blows things up is because people get gready and fit massive bhp jets without a controler, to work properly it needs to be controled, you wouldnt fit a turbo without adding more fuel to the engine so why would you fit WON without doing it properly
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31st December 2006, 15:35
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Robbo
a question for god, what WON kit have you got/ would i need?
is it the SB100i?
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thats the best kit to start with, and you can add direct port jets at a later date, if you stay below 50bhp wtihout a controler you will be fine, you will need to uprate you sparkplugs but thats about it, before the kit is fitted you will need a compression check done and a spark strengh test carried out, but and decent WON dealer will have the equipment to do these and if your engine does not meet the required levels then they will advise you of this and not fit the kit, if you go somewhere that just bolts thekit on without carrying out the required tests then its just asking for trouble
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31st December 2006, 17:37
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tweeqd
nitrous will only damage an engine if its not fitted and setup right
it creates a cleaner burn so is better for the engine than normal air, the reason it blows things up is because people get gready and fit massive bhp jets without a controler, to work properly it needs to be controled, you wouldnt fit a turbo without adding more fuel to the engine so why would you fit WON without doing it properly
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tweeqd
thats the best kit to start with, and you can add direct port jets at a later date, if you stay below 50bhp wtihout a controler you will be fine, you will need to uprate you sparkplugs but thats about it, before the kit is fitted you will need a compression check done and a spark strengh test carried out, but and decent WON dealer will have the equipment to do these and if your engine does not meet the required levels then they will advise you of this and not fit the kit, if you go somewhere that just bolts thekit on without carrying out the required tests then its just asking for trouble
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i was thinking of staying below 50bhp until i could afford the contoller but to be honest i wasnt thinking of going too far above 50bhp for a while. what kind of spark plug would i need, dual spark or something or is it something totally different?
and thanks for the help aswell
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