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4-1 Manifold + Standard Centre Pipe Plus Cat + Standard Backbox 4 22.22%
4-1 Manifold + Diesel Centre Pipe (1 Silencer + De-Cat)+ Standard Backbox 4 22.22%
4-1 Manifold + Standard Centre Pipe Plus Cat + Peco 4.5" Backbox 6 33.33%
4-1 Manifold + Diesel Centre Pipe (1 Silencer + De-Cat)+ Peco 4.5" Backbox 4 22.22%
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Old 2nd March 2007, 13:49   #1
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I know these set-ups wont do wonders, but don't want my exhaust to be too loud, bit over standard though, and a sporty sound!

The options are listed above what i can do, wanting best performance... dont understand back pressures and stuff if someone cares to explain
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You will need either a CAT or a centre box for back pressure and sound pressure wave purposes.

I would have the CAT if you worry about being legal.

I would can the diesel centre section buddy and go for a Supersprint middle section at least. With or without silencer. The diesel centre pipes bore is too small and wont do any favours as your keeping the standard bore size.

Then twin the supersprint with a backbox of your choice.
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You will need either a CAT or a centre box for back pressure and sound pressure wave purposes.

I would have the CAT if you worry about being legal.

I would can the diesel centre section buddy and go for a Supersprint middle section at least. With or without silencer. The diesel centre pipes bore is too small and wont do any favours as your keeping the standard bore size.

Then twin the supersprint with a backbox of your choice.
Just so you know the diesel pipe is a bigger bore than my standard centre pipe
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not sure how much bigger but apparantly it is bigger........
and the peco is only 2nd hand one kicking around at the moment dont have funds for a new one.....
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Ok then but still the bore will reduce in the centre on the bends and not flow as well as it could. I cant be near 2" bore can it?
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Ok then but still the bore will reduce in the centre on the bends and not flow as well as it could. I cant be near 2" bore can it?
to be honest i dont know al measure it when i get in
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The derv pipe is the same bore as the petrol. If it is by some weird stroke different then the Peco back box won't fit. Ebay the peco and centre section off and buy a decent system
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The derv pipe is the same bore as the petrol. If it is by some weird stroke different then the Peco back box won't fit. Ebay the peco and centre section off and buy a decent system
some good advice there by david
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Right its 1 3/4 inch diameter!
Whats the diameter of standard
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4-1 Manifold, Supersprint centre section (no boxes, decats the car), standard backbox
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is that my best bet? what about this little thing called back pressure? are the standard box's too restrictive though?
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Not sure about how restrictive the standard boxes are. Thats what my system is (apart from my manifold is 4-2-1) i've only kept the standard box on because im past the stupidly loud exhausts etc.
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Hmm its a choice of the top two, not sure what to do....
Come on guys de-cat or not? that is the question.
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if your gunna de-cat it mate you better be friendly with your mot inspector or you'll have to change it back to normal once a year.

but that said id still get it done a sod the back pressure it would sound awesome. lol

if you manage to fit the derv centre section let me know because if got one and might try fit it if it works
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if your gunna de-cat it mate you better be friendly with your mot inspector or you'll have to change it back to normal once a year.

but that said id still get it done a sod the back pressure it would sound awesome. lol

if you manage to fit the derv centre section let me know because if got one and might try fit it if it works
your only saying that to use me as a test dummy mot not due for 7 - 8 month so am ok for now dont know what to do! keeping standard backbox on! jus wether to de-cat or not
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id go for the manifold and diesel pipe with standard backbox

this way u get good performance and a good sound, but also makes it look more 'standard' so itll sound nice without a backbox

itll keep backpressure too
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Means no TAX

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well, fucked out! car now sounds like a john deer tractor! blowing like hell, was a bitch to fit and move the sensor! and couldnt get one or 2 bolts back onto the engine.... getting it booked in at manic motors for him to sort!

No harm having a go!

Would i do it again??? fuck no! left car sitting at richies, dont want to drive it so will tow it up home later ahha
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Whats this back pressure all about
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will also get car lowered when manifold getting done
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