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11th April 2007, 11:50
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Cam's on my VTS
Hi,
I bought my cams from newman. Next step is fitting and preparing the rest of the engine and i need your advice and opinion.
Here is what i am going to do:
1. Newman Phase 3 inlet cam Phase 1 exhaust cam
2. Ported and polished head.
3. Porting the throttle body to 56mm
4. Modify the stock air box and adding K&N panel filter
5. Changing the exhaust system with larger diameter of the pipe 54mm
6. Stock manifold
Here is some projects with similar specifications to what i want to do:
www.lioliosracing.gr/m...42〈=en
As i see the OEM manifold is good enough and it's possible to gain over 170hp with it.
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11th April 2007, 11:53
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nassso
Hi,
I bought my cams from newman. Next step is fitting and preparing the rest of the engine and i need your advice and opinion.
Here is what i am going to do:
1. Newman Phase 3 inlet cam Phase 1 exhaust cam
2. Ported and polished head.
3. Porting the throttle body to 56mm
4. Modify the stock air box and adding K&N panel filter
5. Changing the exhaust system with larger diameter of the pipe 54mm
6. Stock manifold
Here is some projects with similar specifications to what i want to do:
www.lioliosracing.gr/m...42〈=en
As i see the OEM manifold is good enough and it's possible to gain over 170hp with it.
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so what is the point of this thread dude??
is it asking for advice or just telling us what your going to do?
170+ on standard inlet is very very rare btw...
why are you wanting to run a standard manifold with small ports?
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11th April 2007, 12:06
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I am interested what do you think. If it's possible or not because this is the only case i had seen with gains like this. And what i am really impressed is that they use OEM manifold.
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11th April 2007, 12:13
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nassso
I am interested what do you think. If it's possible or not because this is the only case i had seen with gains like this. And what i am really impressed is that they use OEM manifold.
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there are different grinds of cams remeber, how do you know that they are not on a custom grind cam to produce that power?
i personally wouldnt get my hopes up to see 170+ although in theroy it can be done.
i am not a fan of polishing the throttle body to be honest.
and the headwork your doing seems quite mild to. i would speak to qep about the sort of headwork to go for as theyre the daddies.
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11th April 2007, 12:14
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them cars seem to make good power, all measured on the same rolling road dyno??
will you be matching the manifold ports to the head?
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11th April 2007, 12:15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Itsafastworld85
there are different grinds of cams remeber, how do you know that they are not on a custom grind cam to produce that power?
i personally wouldnt get my hopes up to see 170+ although in theroy it can be done.
i am not a fan of polishing the throttle body to be honest.
and the headwork your doing seems quite mild to. i would speak to qep about the sort of headwork to go for as theyre the daddies.
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the cam spec is on that site, the use a phs 3 inlet and phs 2 exhaust iirc, havent had a look at that site for a while. i was interested in why they do that and if it does actually have any benefit over a 'normal' cam package.
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11th April 2007, 12:17
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Quote:
Originally Posted by williamsvts
the cam spec is on that site, the use a phs 3 inlet and phs 2 exhaust iirc, havent had a look at that site for a while. i was interested in why they do that and if it does actually have any benefit over a 'normal' cam package.
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when i checked it just had cam info - newmans.. although couldnt be bothered to check most because most is still greek lol...
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11th April 2007, 12:19
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select the english option then
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11th April 2007, 12:20
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seems to have changed a little, it used to have teh cam specs on.
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11th April 2007, 12:20
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Quote:
Originally Posted by williamsvts
select the english option then 
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i did!! but most the info is still not in english only select parts.
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11th April 2007, 12:21
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well it kept resetting itself back into greek.. trying to sort it now...
the links on the right kept sending it back into greek.
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11th April 2007, 12:27
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When you use smaller phase on the exhaust cam you will have better power band 2500-7000 instead 3000-7000 for standart cams. Also the idle will be better.
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11th April 2007, 12:30
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i see that on different set ups like the 168 they use supersprint fannymould..
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11th April 2007, 12:39
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Yes in this setup they sprint manifold but it's their earlier project. In their later projects they use OEM manifold.
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11th April 2007, 12:59
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im just sceptical about all the details they release.. most companies wont tell all secrets imo..
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11th April 2007, 13:08
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Probably they are hiding something
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11th April 2007, 13:23
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Itsafastworld85
i did!! but most the info is still not in english only select parts. 
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Learn greek then! Only takes 5 mins..
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11th April 2007, 14:45
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Do you think this mod will have some effect?
Changing the stock exhaust pipe to 55mm and matching manifold ports to the head ports.
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11th April 2007, 18:42
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standard fanny is pants, that is all
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