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18th May 2007, 11:57
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I want nitrous
Well ive been saving like a good-un so i can buy all my bits at once and get em put on within the same week and then get the car mapped....anyway!
Ive noticed a few people have been runing 25hp jets on standard engine parts so ive got a few q's;
A; When wired are they legal to leave connected?
B; Im fitting a ported n flowed head, cam & usual breathing stuff - Once this has been mapped and the nos is fitted with, will i need to remap or will the ECU fuel accordingly?
C; I think i could fit it myself but i spoke to a mechanic who said the n20/air/fuel ratio's have to be set up by the pros? But i know a few people who have fitted there own kits...
D; How much would an 11lb bottle cost to refil and how long would it last?
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18th May 2007, 12:31
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The first bottle wouldn't last very long. There's a guy on the PGAC with a 50shot and he went through his fist lot very quickly.
Sorry I can't help with other questions.
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18th May 2007, 12:45
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50 shot is too high for what im wanting....
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18th May 2007, 12:48
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i would get it done pro, if the mixture is too high the car could blow up or if the fueling is wrong you could loose power!
should be interesting to see the results! i would get it installed before the remap
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18th May 2007, 14:52
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a) not sure i have my bottle plumbed in all the time just keep the bottle out of view b) as long as you get a wet nos kit you don't need a re-map coz it puts extra fuel in with it. c) its pritty easy to fit your self just takes time and patience most kits come with the jetting sizes of each hp d) on a 25 shot should last around about 10 mins if its on all the time and around £50 to fill
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18th May 2007, 15:11
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As above really it isnt worth DIYing it if your not 100% confident as it could cost you a whole new engine!
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18th May 2007, 15:50
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Quote:
Originally Posted by andyvts98
a) not sure i have my bottle plumbed in all the time just keep the bottle out of view b) as long as you get a wet nos kit you don't need a re-map coz it puts extra fuel in with it. c) its pritty easy to fit your self just takes time and patience most kits come with the jetting sizes of each hp d) on a 25 shot should last around about 10 mins if its on all the time and around £50 to fill
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Yea excellent, do you have any extra safety precautions to prevent the bottle puncturing during an accident?
Also where are the jets plumbed in?
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18th May 2007, 15:54
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Any questions you have mate go onto the forum here :
http://www.forum.nitrous-advice.com/
Bit of advice too, if you want simple to install kit, that WORKS and works well, give the wizards a shout....
They are TOP systems, got one on my classic mini... a 50 shot, pushes my mini to 158 bhp and 145lbft of torque... which is nice
There kit is the ONLY one not to have a rupture valve (which if your bottle is over filled or the pressure get's too high) will rupture inside your car.. (which you REALLY don't want)
They use something called an sprv valve, which safely releases excess pressure.
There's no need to purge the system either, unlike alot of other kits.
if you need any help/advice drop me a line..
Ta
Mick
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18th May 2007, 16:01
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I was looking at the SB100i kit from the Wizards.
I want a purge kit hehehe
Ill keep that site in mind Cheers Mick
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18th May 2007, 16:12
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ste_1
I was looking at the SB100i kit from the Wizards.
I want a purge kit hehehe
Ill keep that site in mind Cheers Mick
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If you want a purge kit, it's actually ALOT cheaper to do it with co2...
(obviously separate from your nitrous kit)
You use the same pulsoids and fittings, but you get it refilled ALOT cheaper... looks exactly the same too...
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18th May 2007, 16:25
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Lol and whats best is.... id actually have nos!!!!
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18th May 2007, 16:30
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y dont u just save ur money and buy a faster car mate
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18th May 2007, 16:36
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Dont be a fuckin nob...... whats the point in that comment?
Why doesnt everyone just buy a faster car??
There would be no point in doing any of the engine mods people do if everyone was that Ready Salted....
Nuckle head
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18th May 2007, 17:27
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before the vts was wrote off i was in the process of sorting out a dry nitrous kit.. that was the reason behind me buying and fitting a fuel/air mixture gauge so i could keep an eye on things.. i also had decided upon a dry kit as it was cheaper and good power was still achieveable.. high octaine fuel is a must when running it tho to prevent knocking...
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18th May 2007, 17:41
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a) its not illegal
b) no you won't need another remap
c) you didn't ask a question here, that was a statement  but the majority of NOS kits can be installed using common hand tools in approximately 3 to 5 hours, although the manuals are very accurate, i would still suggest taking it to somewhere like Wizards of NOS and have it done professionally.
d) as far as "how long will it last" goes? this largely depends on the type of nitrous kit and jetting used. For example, a 125bhp Shot kit with a standard 10 lb. capacity bottle will usually offer up to 7 to 10 full quarter-mile passes. If you onlyuse it in 2nd and 3rd gears, the number of runs will be more. but i couldn't say how muchit would cost to refill one tbh!
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18th May 2007, 17:49
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My 11lb bottle costs me just over 50 quid to fill..... Just as an idea...
Mick
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18th May 2007, 18:02
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ive got a 11lb shiny bottle and the full kit never been used or fitted
comes with 50bhp shots but it only costs 12 quid to change them
im looking for 390 quid
if you check how much it would actually cost to buy from WON youll see the saving!
PM me
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18th May 2007, 18:38
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y have nitrois oxide if u cant use it on the road?
do u track your car?
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18th May 2007, 19:06
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ste_1
Yea excellent, do you have any extra safety precautions to prevent the bottle puncturing during an accident?
Also where are the jets plumbed in?
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i haven't got any safty percautions the bottles mounted in the boot and i only run a 5lb bottle on the road. i've got a puffa jet is threaded into my k&n pipe pointing straight into the butterfly and i've just t'd in to the fuel pipe in the engine bay.
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18th May 2007, 19:11
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go 50 shot atleast
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