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Old 18th May 2007, 11:57   #1
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Well ive been saving like a good-un so i can buy all my bits at once and get em put on within the same week and then get the car mapped....anyway!

Ive noticed a few people have been runing 25hp jets on standard engine parts so ive got a few q's;

A; When wired are they legal to leave connected?

B; Im fitting a ported n flowed head, cam & usual breathing stuff - Once this has been mapped and the nos is fitted with, will i need to remap or will the ECU fuel accordingly?

C; I think i could fit it myself but i spoke to a mechanic who said the n20/air/fuel ratio's have to be set up by the pros? But i know a few people who have fitted there own kits...

D; How much would an 11lb bottle cost to refil and how long would it last?
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Old 18th May 2007, 12:31   #2
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The first bottle wouldn't last very long. There's a guy on the PGAC with a 50shot and he went through his fist lot very quickly.

Sorry I can't help with other questions.
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50 shot is too high for what im wanting....
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Old 18th May 2007, 12:48   #4
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i would get it done pro, if the mixture is too high the car could blow up or if the fueling is wrong you could loose power!

should be interesting to see the results! i would get it installed before the remap
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a) not sure i have my bottle plumbed in all the time just keep the bottle out of view b) as long as you get a wet nos kit you don't need a re-map coz it puts extra fuel in with it. c) its pritty easy to fit your self just takes time and patience most kits come with the jetting sizes of each hp d) on a 25 shot should last around about 10 mins if its on all the time and around £50 to fill
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As above really it isnt worth DIYing it if your not 100% confident as it could cost you a whole new engine!
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a) not sure i have my bottle plumbed in all the time just keep the bottle out of view b) as long as you get a wet nos kit you don't need a re-map coz it puts extra fuel in with it. c) its pritty easy to fit your self just takes time and patience most kits come with the jetting sizes of each hp d) on a 25 shot should last around about 10 mins if its on all the time and around £50 to fill
Yea excellent, do you have any extra safety precautions to prevent the bottle puncturing during an accident?

Also where are the jets plumbed in?
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Any questions you have mate go onto the forum here :

http://www.forum.nitrous-advice.com/


Bit of advice too, if you want simple to install kit, that WORKS and works well, give the wizards a shout....

They are TOP systems, got one on my classic mini... a 50 shot, pushes my mini to 158 bhp and 145lbft of torque... which is nice

There kit is the ONLY one not to have a rupture valve (which if your bottle is over filled or the pressure get's too high) will rupture inside your car.. (which you REALLY don't want)

They use something called an sprv valve, which safely releases excess pressure.

There's no need to purge the system either, unlike alot of other kits.

if you need any help/advice drop me a line..

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I was looking at the SB100i kit from the Wizards.

I want a purge kit hehehe


Ill keep that site in mind Cheers Mick
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I was looking at the SB100i kit from the Wizards.

I want a purge kit hehehe


Ill keep that site in mind Cheers Mick
If you want a purge kit, it's actually ALOT cheaper to do it with co2...
(obviously separate from your nitrous kit)

You use the same pulsoids and fittings, but you get it refilled ALOT cheaper... looks exactly the same too...
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Lol and whats best is.... id actually have nos!!!!
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y dont u just save ur money and buy a faster car mate
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Dont be a fuckin nob...... whats the point in that comment?

Why doesnt everyone just buy a faster car??

There would be no point in doing any of the engine mods people do if everyone was that Ready Salted....

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before the vts was wrote off i was in the process of sorting out a dry nitrous kit.. that was the reason behind me buying and fitting a fuel/air mixture gauge so i could keep an eye on things.. i also had decided upon a dry kit as it was cheaper and good power was still achieveable.. high octaine fuel is a must when running it tho to prevent knocking...
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a) its not illegal

b) no you won't need another remap

c) you didn't ask a question here, that was a statement but the majority of NOS kits can be installed using common hand tools in approximately 3 to 5 hours, although the manuals are very accurate, i would still suggest taking it to somewhere like Wizards of NOS and have it done professionally.

d) as far as "how long will it last" goes? this largely depends on the type of nitrous kit and jetting used. For example, a 125bhp Shot kit with a standard 10 lb. capacity bottle will usually offer up to 7 to 10 full quarter-mile passes. If you onlyuse it in 2nd and 3rd gears, the number of runs will be more. but i couldn't say how muchit would cost to refill one tbh!
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My 11lb bottle costs me just over 50 quid to fill..... Just as an idea...

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ive got a 11lb shiny bottle and the full kit never been used or fitted

comes with 50bhp shots but it only costs 12 quid to change them

im looking for 390 quid

if you check how much it would actually cost to buy from WON youll see the saving!

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y have nitrois oxide if u cant use it on the road?


do u track your car?
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Yea excellent, do you have any extra safety precautions to prevent the bottle puncturing during an accident?

Also where are the jets plumbed in?
i haven't got any safty percautions the bottles mounted in the boot and i only run a 5lb bottle on the road. i've got a puffa jet is threaded into my k&n pipe pointing straight into the butterfly and i've just t'd in to the fuel pipe in the engine bay.
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go 50 shot atleast
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