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22nd May 2007, 18:41
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de-cat pipe-how easy??
Hey folks just wanted to ask anyone whos got a mk2 vtr cat in manifold if they have done a de-cat on it.think im going to do this to mines soon but just wondered how easy it is to do?thanks
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22nd May 2007, 18:48
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get a GMC manifold and wack it on, simple as mate. just remember to get a sleve for your lambda sensor
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22nd May 2007, 18:50
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wouldnt de-cat as have to change manifold every mot time, imo get janspeed with sports cat will sound nearly as good and dont have to mess on with sensor sleeves.
But if do want to de-cat it, then i would agree go for a gmc make sure its the one where you dont have to move the oil filter wouldnt risk the hassle of a raceland manifold tbh
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22nd May 2007, 18:55
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Originally Posted by Mark51
get a GMC manifold and wack it on, simple as mate. just remember to get a sleve for your lambda sensor
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so i cant go about putting a de-cat pipe on my standard manifold i guess??got to be new manifold and de-cat pipe then?
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22nd May 2007, 19:06
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Originally Posted by coldo1987
so i cant go about putting a de-cat pipe on my standard manifold i guess??got to be new manifold and de-cat pipe then?
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no just a new manifold will de-cat it! but will fail mot
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22nd May 2007, 19:20
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ahh i see i thought you could buy a de-cat pipe that just went in place of the cat.thats not to bad then was reading up on the other thread about which manifolds to go for but GMC looks the favourite.take it a 4-2-1 is what i'd be after so i wouldn't have to do the oil filter relocation??
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22nd May 2007, 19:24
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4-1 mate dont think gmc do a 4-2-1, gmc are excellent build quality but will have to change the manifold every mot time, so unless ur good with your hands or made of cash i would go for a manifold with sports cat!
But suppose then its not de-catin but richies sounds awesome with the janspeed on!
DONT GET A RACELAND AND BODGE JOB IT
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22nd May 2007, 19:27
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^^ if you get a manifold made for the mk2 engine then no
if you get a manifold for a mk1 engine then yes you will need to relocate the oil filter
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22nd May 2007, 19:28
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Originally Posted by Mark51
^^ if you get a manifold made for the mk2 engine then no
if you get a manifold for a mk1 engine then yes you will need to relocate the oil filter
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that aswel
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22nd May 2007, 19:30
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Originally Posted by Steve_VTR
4-1 mate dont think gmc do a 4-2-1, gmc are excellent build quality but will have to change the manifold every mot time, so unless ur good with your hands or made of cash i would go for a manifold with sports cat!
But suppose then its not de-catin but richies sounds awesome with the janspeed on!
DONT GET A RACELAND AND BODGE JOB IT 
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mechanic anyways so if i keep hold of the old manifold and cat then it shouldnt be a problem changing it over for mot.only once a year anyways.think i'll need to invest in a new manifold and a gmc by sounds of it.thanks guys
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22nd May 2007, 19:33
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mechanic anyways so if i keep hold of the old manifold and cat then it shouldnt be a problem changing it over for mot.only once a year anyways.think i'll need to invest in a new manifold and a gmc by sounds of it.thanks guys 
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if thats the case get a sports cat from janspeed makes sense
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22nd May 2007, 19:51
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Quote:
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if thats the case get a sports cat from janspeed makes sense 
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why would it be more sense getting a janspeed with sports cat?
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22nd May 2007, 20:56
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Originally Posted by coldo1987
why would it be more sense getting a janspeed with sports cat?
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to eliminate the problem of mot, plus be the same gains, if am honest i noticed no performance increase with my manifold and a few people i have spoken to noticed no difference....
Unless your going for noise........
But even then the sports cat sounded 
plus cant see point in buy new cat for standard and spending a load on a manifold but i am a tight bastard......
For quality i reccommend the gmc though!
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22nd May 2007, 21:00
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Originally Posted by Steve_VTR
to eliminate the problem of mot, plus be the same gains, if am honest i noticed no performance increase with my manifold and a few people i have spoken to noticed no difference....
Unless your going for noise........
But even then the sports cat sounded 
plus cant see point in buy new cat for standard and spending a load on a manifold but i am a tight bastard......
For quality i reccommend the gmc though!
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sounds good advise mate.what kinda money is involved in a janspeed as i gota admit im a bit of a tight arse myself lol
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22nd May 2007, 21:09
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sounds good advise mate.what kinda money is involved in a janspeed as i gota admit im a bit of a tight arse myself lol
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best pm'ing richie2104vtr my mate we fitted his, think was around £300 but sure a gmc is £280.....
best bet is holding out and getting 2nd hand
Raceland is the cheap way out but dont think it will last long with moving the oil filter!
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22nd May 2007, 21:41
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Originally Posted by Steve_VTR
best pm'ing richie2104vtr my mate we fitted his, think was around £300 but sure a gmc is £280.....
best bet is holding out and getting 2nd hand
Raceland is the cheap way out but dont think it will last long with moving the oil filter!
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thanks for the help mate.rep on its way
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