the 2 holes in slam panel for induction? - Saxperience

scottvtr · 21st June 2007, 19:43

i hear alot about when you place a green cotton or raceland induction to your car, you only have 2 holes for the air to go through? is this true and how could you go about it to get more air through, im after performance and want the best induction

cheers

VTS_16v_Boy · 22nd June 2007, 07:52

Basically the enclosed filter like the one below

is feed through two tiny holes in the slam panel, thats one of the main reasons I went from my Green enclosed

to a 106 S16 open filter with a heat shield as below

I personally thought the Open filter was better from the off and at low to mid revs under hard accelration but I will admit that I did go back to the Green scoop after about 4 or 5months because the pick while on the move was much better with the Scoop which I think I put down to heat soak problems.

I found by spacing the Scoop slight away from the slam panel so it wasnt flush with it more air could enter the scoop there by improving the scoops performance.

You could go at the slam panel with a angle grind or heavy metal cutting shears but I chooce not to do this as I wasnt sure what this would do to the slam panels strength in the case of a smash, last thing I wanted to do is make it weaker in a crash but its up to you.

Hope that helps

sim69er · 22nd June 2007, 10:51

ive drilled some hole in my slam panel to help get some more air in

furio_morgan · 22nd June 2007, 11:11

im looking to get an enclosed induction kit for my furio 2002 but cnt find one for my model anywhere will a vts / vtr one do the job, also which kind of induction kit will give me more performance? like on a cold winters morning so i can fly to work?

saunders · 22nd June 2007, 11:13

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Originally Posted by furio_morgan

im looking to get an enclosed induction kit for my furio 2002 but cnt find one for my model anywhere will a vts / vtr one do the job, also which kind of induction kit will give me more performance? like on a cold winters morning so i can fly to work?

I just fitted one for the vts on my furio (needs modifications to fit tho)

Check out my progress thread for pics and details

KamRacing · 22nd June 2007, 11:16

I doubt the slam panel is a major stutural piece so i would cut it slightly to get better airflow. If its anything like a 205 it will be held on by two small bolts that would just sheer in an accident. The only point I can see of these is to hold your bonnet catch mechanism in place.

l1ukeRS · 22nd June 2007, 11:22

jigsaw a bigger hole out of it, in a crash it will be the least of you worries, a bean can is probly stronger than the saxo shell

saunders · 22nd June 2007, 11:25

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Originally Posted by L1UKEVTR

jigsaw a bigger hole out of it, in a crash it will be the least of you worries, a bean can is probly stronger than the saxo shell

^^ so true, but we like to think thats its not so stop reminding us

scottvtr · 22nd June 2007, 12:01

but atleast if you cut abit of it, you stil have a slight panel going accross so you could have abit (not much) force taken away from the engine and shell?

cheers for all your help guys

VTS_16v_Boy · 22nd June 2007, 12:03

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Originally Posted by saunders

^^ so true, but we like to think thats its not so stop reminding us

Thanks Saunders, thats the reason I mentioned it - Yes its easy to cut bigger holes in the slame panel and Yes the slame panel wont save your life on its own, but I did feel it important just to point out that its upto you whether you cut the slame panel and by doing do you are weakening it.

Christ even if the slam panel was a iron gurder it wouldnt save your life in a Saxo

but I felt it was important enough to to mention, as I mention to everbody about decats will fail a MoT - We all know that but its worth mentioning

KamRacing · 22nd June 2007, 12:12

strutural points on the chassis will be welded or will have bloody big bolts/nuts etc. Look at the ones used for your engine mounts, suspension, seat belt points etc and then look at the puny 9 or 10 mm bolts holding the slam panel on.

VTS_16v_Boy · 22nd June 2007, 12:26

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Originally Posted by KamRacing

look at the puny 9 or 10 mm bolts holding the slam panel on.

I thought they where well Solid

scottvtr · 22nd June 2007, 15:01

so final verdict is.... is it worth the drill/cutting of the slam panel for what extra bhp/performance i woul

scottvtr · 22nd June 2007, 15:02

..woul gain if any? what would i be lookin at?

sorry for the double post

saunders · 22nd June 2007, 15:13

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Originally Posted by scottvtr

so final verdict is.... is it worth the drill/cutting of the slam panel for what extra bhp/performance i woul

Definatly don't bother drilling or cutting the slam panel, your probably looking at a couple of BHP at a push, but coupled with an exhaust system you may see more

KamRacing · 22nd June 2007, 15:13

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Originally Posted by VTS_16v_Boy

I thought they where well Solid

bet you used Loctite then lol

Ste · 22nd June 2007, 15:45

I rekon im gonna ave to do this, only reason i didnt is because i thought it wouldn't hold up on an MOT or something.

Dremmel away!!!!!

bullit · 22nd June 2007, 15:49

the gains will be minimul anyway. if your hardcore then cutting away is the thing to do. i was gonna, never got round to it and my scoop is twice the size as the one above

Ste · 22nd June 2007, 16:35

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Originally Posted by bullit

the gains will be minimul anyway. if your hardcore then cutting away is the thing to do. i was gonna, never got round to it and my scoop is twice the size as the one above

Ive been putting up with a little crappy standard scoop for ages, then redirected to below the front bumper - But still just crap!! So i think saturdays job is remove front bumper and have a blast.

Aron · 22nd June 2007, 16:45

It wont add anything big to performnce but the little fings always help, even more so on breathing. Prob will find a little differenceat higher speeds for the simpl fact of more air at that speed anyway.