106 1.5 Turbo - Saxperience

thekore · 2nd July 2007, 22:25

I own a Saxo 1.5xd (Mk1 1997) and while I was looking through the scrappies around here I noticed that the 106 1.5 TD (Mk1 1995) looks like the exact same engine, only with a large black box at the rear (inlet manifold) which I am presuming is the turbo.

Im wondering, if at all it would be possible to bolt off / bolt on the Pugs Turbo to the Saxo 1.5XD. Would it be quite that easy or would there be much more to it? ECU / Injectors etc? Any help would be appreciated.

Cheers

Barry123 · 2nd July 2007, 22:27

im very very very sure it is not a turbo man... if you could get pics that would help

thekore · 2nd July 2007, 22:30

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Originally Posted by adsayer

im very very very sure it is not a turbo man... if you could get pics that would help

The 106 XTD is a 1.5 Turbo, the location is unimportant at this time tho. What I really want to know is if the Turbo unit from a 106 XTD can be bolted onto the Saxo 1.5XD?

Barry123 · 2nd July 2007, 22:55

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Originally Posted by thekore

The 106 XTD is a 1.5 Turbo, the location is unimportant at this time tho. What I really want to know is if the Turbo unit from a 106 XTD can be bolted onto the Saxo 1.5XD?

im very very sure it isnt man, lol

I used to own a 106 Aztec and if memory serves me right the range was along the lines of XND XTD and something else, same engine, different trim.

I maybe wrong though.

Sophia_Bush · 2nd July 2007, 23:43

none of the diesel engines in the ax/106/saxo were ever turbo'd. Only the C2s and C1s had the 1.4 hdi lump

S34MER · 3rd July 2007, 07:38

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Originally Posted by Sophia_Bush

none of the diesel engines in the ax/106/saxo were ever turbo'd. Only the C2s and C1s had the 1.4 hdi lump

this man talks the truth

no such thing as a turbo diesel 106 mate

Barry123 · 3rd July 2007, 12:19

i talk the truth as well. thanks.

TU-Tuning · 3rd July 2007, 12:22

What about those electric superchargers off ebay?

KamRacing · 3rd July 2007, 12:29

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Originally Posted by Ben_Saxo

What about those electric superchargers off ebay?

if you add one to your intake and one to your exhaust your car acts as a jet engine and you gain a lot of power

thekore · 3rd July 2007, 12:56

Then I must apologise and hang my head in shame, thanks for enlightening me though. I'l spread a little rep once im out fo work.

Let me re-jiggle the question then. Is there a small turbo charger that would cause a slight increase in power which can be easily added to the diesel saxo engine? Electric Supercharger for example?

Barry123 · 3rd July 2007, 13:01

to be honest man, although a very cool project to do, i wouldnt go down that route.

The best thing to do is to tweak the fuel pump to increase the fuelling slightly... this'll need to be matched with a good induction system. Lee Rushdon famous 1.5D had 80hp i believe. 30% improvement over standard.

KamRacing · 3rd July 2007, 13:08

a proper electric supercharger needs a lot of juice. I read an article about an Evo with one and it had about 4 massive batteries, a huge alternator and it sucked all the batteries dry after about 30seconds of foot to the floor acceleration..

Barry123 · 3rd July 2007, 13:13

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Originally Posted by KamRacing

a proper electric supercharger needs a lot of juice. I read an article about an Evo with one and it had about 4 massive batteries, a huge alternator and it sucked all the batteries dry after about 30seconds of foot to the floor acceleration..

i was talking about an actual turbo kam. lol

you have pm... in a few mins anyway.

thekore · 3rd July 2007, 14:34

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Originally Posted by adsayer

to be honest man, although a very cool project to do, i wouldnt go down that route.

The best thing to do is to tweak the fuel pump to increase the fuelling slightly... this'll need to be matched with a good induction system. Lee Rushdon famous 1.5D had 80hp i believe. 30% improvement over standard.

Tweaking the fuel pump seems to be the most obvious, and the only real option I have ever been told. But my one concern is the fuel consumtion. Obviously, ensuring more fuel is being pumped into the engine means that my mpg will drop. Is the performance gain that good that it will be worth the loss in miles?

Also, how easy an operation is it. I have heard its a screw you simply turn and jobs done?

Cheers again

Ste · 3rd July 2007, 14:38

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Originally Posted by KamRacing

a proper electric supercharger needs a lot of juice. I read an article about an Evo with one and it had about 4 massive batteries, a huge alternator and it sucked all the batteries dry after about 30seconds of foot to the floor acceleration..

Belt driven ftw lol!!!!! never knew they actually did proper leccy ones!

Barry123 · 3rd July 2007, 14:41

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Originally Posted by thekore

Tweaking the fuel pump seems to be the most obvious, and the only real option I have ever been told. But my one concern is the fuel consumtion. Obviously, ensuring more fuel is being pumped into the engine means that my mpg will drop. Is the performance gain that good that it will be worth the loss in miles?

Also, how easy an operation is it. I have heard its a screw you simply turn and jobs done?

Cheers again

for general driving i doubt they'd be a significant mpg drop, only when flooring the pedal would you notice the engine gobbling all those precious hydrocarbons at an increased rate. A 30% improvement in engine power is good by anyones books, even better knowing that it can be done for free.

its a screw somewhere! lol, i remember reading about it in Diesel Car mag but was never interested at the time... I will write in at some point and ask although I probably wouldnt do such a mod until after uni.

You could always ask them i suppose!

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TU-Tuning · 3rd July 2007, 14:47

Sayyyyyer, no one from the south west massiv is goin to fcs so its def gonna be a posting situation for the K&N. Let me know what you wanna do

thekore · 3rd July 2007, 15:39

Can you possibly suggest a good relatively cheap induction kit choice for teh XD? As I have no idea really what would work best.

Cheers

James · 3rd July 2007, 15:47

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Originally Posted by adsayer

to be honest man, although a very cool project to do, i wouldnt go down that route.

The best thing to do is to tweak the fuel pump to increase the fuelling slightly... this'll need to be matched with a good induction system. Lee Rushdon famous 1.5D had 80hp i believe. 30% improvement over standard.

A whole 80bhp?

Sorry that made me laugh.

Barry123 · 3rd July 2007, 15:57

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Originally Posted by Cloud

A whole 80bhp?

Sorry that made me laugh.

cloud go eat your own ass.

think of it as percentages... for a driver being given and extra 30% hp regardless of the final output... its a noticeable difference.

the derv isnt that much behind a furio. give it an extra 30% and it'll surprise a few vtrs.