BHP Gains? - Saxperience

GTI_Lee · 8th July 2007, 22:32

Hi all! I am thinking of putting a VTS engine in my VTR! I am thinking of getting it cammed, re-mapped, 4-2-1 manifold and a panel filter or Throttle Bodies! What bhp gains will I see from this?

SaxoJamie · 8th July 2007, 22:44

I was thinkink about gettin a VTR/S engine conversion sometime in the distant future lol.

I'm not really expert on this but I'd expect you'd get around 150BHP+

GTI_Lee · 8th July 2007, 22:48

It dont look too hard to do as long as you get the same year engine as your car so you dont have to mess around with the loom! I am hoping to get mine in 2-3 weeks!

Steovts · 8th July 2007, 22:52

A Vts engine cammed and remaped with all breading mods your looking at 150-155bhp.Also there is a big difference between a panel filter and throttle bodies mate

Ry_B · 8th July 2007, 22:53

Throttle bodies will replace the whole induction breathin system..meanin no need for a panel filter lol

GTI_Lee · 8th July 2007, 22:54

Yeah i know, thing that is putting me off throttle bodies is that you have to mess about with them to get them running right!

Ryan^p · 8th July 2007, 22:55

depends on cam profile. typically most use catcam 708s which produce 155-157bhp on average.

throttle bodies basically allow you to run wilder cams, depends on budget but a throttle bodied engine can be between 160-200+ bhp depending on budget

Ryan^p · 8th July 2007, 22:56

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Originally Posted by Squills_Saxo

Yeah i know, thing that is putting me off throttle bodies is that you have to mess about with them to get them running right!

not really, more carbs than throttle bodies, a properly set up engine on bodies will run perfectly for ages without my work.

bullit · 8th July 2007, 22:59

the other thing being a few grand

platty · 9th July 2007, 23:56

your looking at 150-160 mate, gains vary from car to car.

R66CE_O_vtr · 10th July 2007, 00:02

u would b better of puttin a turbo on urs for 4000 u wil c 180-210 easy dependin wot boost u runnin and that would eat a vts on bodies.bodies r good my mate oli got them but lack alot of torque as wetre in the vtr u have alot of torque

Scott^p · 10th July 2007, 00:07

vts makes/develops more torque than a vtr....

Ryan^p · 10th July 2007, 00:12

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Originally Posted by R66CE_O_vtr

u would b better of puttin a turbo on urs for 4000 u wil c 180-210 easy dependin wot boost u runnin and that would eat a vts on bodies.bodies r good my mate oli got them but lack alot of torque as wetre in the vtr u have alot of torque

sorry the poor english makes this incredibly hard to read.

I think your saying a turbo will eat bodies.

on what grounds do you base this? a high powered NA engine will give alot smoother power delivery, so on a track it will perform better.

MaRiO89 · 10th July 2007, 00:14

Bodies are mental!

Nothing like hearing a car on bodies revving like feck!

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Mikey · 10th July 2007, 08:09

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Originally Posted by R66CE_O_vtr

u would b better of puttin a turbo on urs for 4000 u wil c 180-210 easy dependin wot boost u runnin and that would eat a vts on bodies.bodies r good my mate oli got them but lack alot of torque as wetre in the vtr u have alot of torque

throttle bodies would be better than a turbo imo...okay with bodies the engine would need re mapping every 6 months to get the max out of them, but they are a lot more reliable than a turbo kit!!

and they also sound a lot better lol....with bodies you can pust 170/180 brake easily!! depending on the others mods to the engine such as cams and breathing mods

-Jason- · 10th July 2007, 09:59

Superchanger FTW sounds so much better lol

Ryan^p · 10th July 2007, 10:35

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Originally Posted by Mikey

...okay with bodies the engine would need re mapping every 6 months to get the max out of them,

you dont need to remap an engine every 6 months on bodies!!!!!!!

the map doesnt change, its only occasionally you may need to tweak the balance of the bodies, but its minimal compaired to an old carb set up

Karl · 10th July 2007, 10:49

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Originally Posted by R66CE_O_vtr

u would b better of puttin a turbo on urs for 4000 u wil c 180-210 easy dependin wot boost u runnin and that would eat a vts on bodies.bodies r good my mate oli got them but lack alot of torque as wetre in the vtr u have alot of torque

VTR and VTS produce the same torque as standard.

just saying slap a turbo on it and you should see 180 bhp is a bit of a general guess isn't it?