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19th July 2007, 21:19
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Newman cams FITTED :)
OK today i fitted my newman camshafts. They are PH2(Phase 3 inlet, Phase 1 exhaust). Standard timings for now i will test some advance or retard tomorrow to see how it will be. The car lost alot of low-down power and is better in the higher revs. The idle is perfect almost like before. The car is still not remaped so i hope see more power in low-down revs and more in the higher. Tomorrow will fit straight pipe 55mm with just one silencer. I think the compression ratio must be rised for better torque and some more ponies  Thats it for now.
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20th July 2007, 08:06
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Is there some guide for cam timings? I want to retard the cams a little bit for better low-down.
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20th July 2007, 08:17
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I wouldn't even bother until you get the car on the rollers. Then the mapping and cam timing adjustment can begin...
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20th July 2007, 08:59
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I have to adjust the timing to make more comfortable power band and then mapping. I don't want maximum peak power. I want better power curve.
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20th July 2007, 09:04
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Firstly, they should have come with settings. Did they? Secondly, you won't know what's going on with the power until you get it mapped. The mapping will consist of tweeking the timing anyway.
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Some say hes the biggest drug dealer in Toadville!
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Originally Posted by sax-oli
and that his dealings even stretch as far as Brazil!
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Originally Posted by Colin
All we know is that he's called the Toad!
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20th July 2007, 12:09
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They are fitted with standard timings.
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20th July 2007, 12:13
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OK, so you need them dialled in... Contact the seller for the info. Where are you planning on getting the mapping done?
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Originally Posted by FinchysSaxo
Some say hes the biggest drug dealer in Toadville!
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Originally Posted by sax-oli
and that his dealings even stretch as far as Brazil!
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Originally Posted by Colin
All we know is that he's called the Toad!
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20th July 2007, 21:30
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the guidde for cam timing is on the newmans site. where it says the amount of lift at tdc, you will need to use dial gauges to set the amount of valve lift at tdc.
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20th July 2007, 22:03
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We set the standard timings is that wrong?
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20th July 2007, 22:43
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Yes, you need to advance / retard them as per the newmans website.
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21st July 2007, 08:18
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Do you have some idea how many degree's need to be advance/retard because i am doing it by myself
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21st July 2007, 08:35
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Look at Williams' post above, lol.
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Originally Posted by FinchysSaxo
Some say hes the biggest drug dealer in Toadville!
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Originally Posted by sax-oli
and that his dealings even stretch as far as Brazil!
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Originally Posted by Colin
All we know is that he's called the Toad!
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21st July 2007, 09:52
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I don't have timing disc so if it's possible to give some orientation how much to rotate the verniers and in what direction.
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28th July 2007, 12:55
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28th July 2007, 14:02
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contact newmans for a disc or buy one, standard marks will work but low on power, and also without a remap its pointless as fueling will be all over the place and wont be good in the longrun. Changing something as radical as cams has a large impact on the car so needs setting up correctly immediatly.
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28th July 2007, 14:58
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Sounds nice in that vid!
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30th July 2007, 00:43
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Nice idle...
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FinchysSaxo
Some say hes the biggest drug dealer in Toadville!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sax-oli
and that his dealings even stretch as far as Brazil!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Colin
All we know is that he's called the Toad!
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30th July 2007, 06:55
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use a DTI on top of the lifters to set the correct amount of lift.
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30th July 2007, 07:24
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What is DTI? The car have alot of increase of performance in 1st and 2nd gear absolute no traction the car goes like mad in first gears. I hope to see good increase after the remap.
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30th July 2007, 07:25
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