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4th November 2014, 12:08
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Engine Building
Talk to me.
I have an engine, it's healthy enough, and works. I've never had it on a roller but it's essentially a standard TU5J4. Goes nicely.
It's on 106k miles currently. I have full history for it, and at 90K it had a top end rebuild consisting of some valves as the belt snapped.
It's currently on an engine stand in my garage as the cam ladders are leaking oil etc.
I'm sorely tempted to rip it all apart and rebuilt it, quite simply, because I've never built an engine. Talk to me. What are good books to read, basic tools required etc?
It's for my 106, I don't "NEED" it on the road, I have a daily, so I can take my time. There's nothing wrong with the engine per se, but going forwards the car is likely to be only used in anger on a track or occasionally for a weekend run out, so I'd intended on baffling the sump etc anyway.
The idea of doing an all out build appeals as I'll get enjoyment out of building it, learning how to do it, and it's a known good starting place.
Thoughts / advice?
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4th November 2014, 12:09
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Don't bother. You will get stuck, call Muz and then fuck it up twice as bad.
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4th November 2014, 12:12
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Originally Posted by Brettles1986
Don't bother. You will get stuck, call Muz and then fuck it up twice as bad.
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Muz is now a redundant partner in Team Fastrape, last week I discovered I can make tea myself!
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4th November 2014, 12:18
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I'm sure the Haynes manual has all the information needed I would of thought, and majority of shite needed is all te basic stuff, spanners and sockets, will need those E sockets for sockets for the head bolts like and a piston ring compressor to make life abit easier getting the pistons back in, assuming you're wanting to put new rings in etc ?
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4th November 2014, 12:20
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Originally Posted by D4MJT
Muz is now a redundant partner in Team Fastrape, last week I discovered I can make tea myself!
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It's only a matter of time before you realise tea making time could be used for cable tying things together instead and he gets reinstated.
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4th November 2014, 12:23
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Originally Posted by Ali123
I'm sure the Haynes manual has all the information needed I would of thought, and majority of shite needed is all te basic stuff, spanners and sockets, will need those E sockets for sockets for the head bolts like and a piston ring compressor to make life abit easier getting the pistons back in, assuming you're wanting to put new rings in etc ?
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Yeah I will be, I was thinking more along the lines of measuriser giblets for tolerances, and crank checking, and that sort of jazz?
As you can tell I have no idea what I'm talking about, as usual.
I've got sockets and all that sort of shit, I'm basically a professional.
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4th November 2014, 13:47
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I've done a few.
You'll need:
Various T size sockets (female & Male )
Big bar
impact gun (makes life easier)
Various sockets & spanners
I'd start with the bottom end if I was you. Strip the sump off and get the crank out then go from there.
Also, Haynes wins. As does autodata.
Last edited by chompy; 4th November 2014 at 14:41.
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4th November 2014, 14:14
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piston ring compressor would be useful too as would an angle gauge for torquing and maybe a dial gauge if you wish to measure some bits and bobs.
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4th November 2014, 14:41
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Originally Posted by Gandi699
piston ring compressor would be useful too as would an angle gauge for torquing and maybe a dial gauge if you wish to measure some bits and bobs.
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Nobody mentioned rebuilding it
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4th November 2014, 14:42
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angle grinder it is then!
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4th November 2014, 14:46
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One of the most therapeutic and enjoyable things I've ever done weirdly.
Just being able to sit in a warm garage with some music on with a beer and methodically work your way through it all.
You'll learn shit loads too, go for it.
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4th November 2014, 14:48
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Originally Posted by holdawayt
One of the most therapeutic and enjoyable things I've ever done weirdly.
Just being able to sit in a warm garage with some music on with a beer and methodically work your way through it all.
You'll learn shit loads too, go for it.
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I like this, this is basically what I'm thinking.
I have a desire to do it and know what it's all about, so I think it'll need done really.
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4th November 2014, 14:57
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I like this, this is basically what I'm thinking.
I have a desire to do it and know what it's all about, so I think it'll need done really. 
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Awaiting the "Where does this go" posts
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4th November 2014, 15:07
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'Why have I got all these bits left over?'
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4th November 2014, 15:35
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'Why have I got all these bits left over?'
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Just spares mate
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4th November 2014, 15:46
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Valve spring compressor
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4th November 2014, 16:28
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awaits picture of penis with the above statement.
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7th November 2014, 21:26
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I think it's a good idea. Good way to learn and if it does fuck up. It's not expensive engine to replace. Also if ure planning on tracking it it's a good time to upgrade stuff.
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7th November 2014, 21:59
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A good torque wrench,a compressor with an air line is also good but not essential.
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7th November 2014, 22:24
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Quote:
Originally Posted by D4MJT
Muz is now a redundant partner in Team Fastrape, last week I discovered I can make tea myself!
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Don't tell me you've also found a local homeless person to call you a bender
I put the "Rape" in Fastrape
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