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18th October 2009, 14:36
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Turbo setup picture reference thread
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18th October 2009, 14:37
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18th October 2009, 15:02
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Rough pic of how a 200sx S14 turbo fits onto the 16v head (port spacings are close but not perfect) I think an S13 might be a closer fit.
Standard 200sx T25 (S13) pics for refrence

not sure if they will be useful to anybody but oh well!
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18th October 2009, 15:10
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when you tune the mf2 you will see about 9 silver boxes at the top of the chip that have yellow arrows in them. under each on will have a numer wich is the rpm. when you car is running at 2000rpm the chip will light up at 2000rpm you will then look at your afr guage ad se if it is running rich or lean. u then turn the yellow arrown up or down at 2000rpm to give it more or less fuel. you then do the same thing with each rpm.
i had the mf2 chip fitted inside the car.. makes it easier for tuning.
in this pic you can see i am holding the white and black wire, you conect both of these to a earth point
in this pic i have my diagnostic port. their will be a grey wire (3583) on this port that you have to connect the yellow wire to or it can also be connected to wire 425 that comes off the ecu
in this pic you cas see my inlet pipe (elbow) you can see where i have the fith injector connected to it then a little further down you can see where the map sensor pipe was connected to it.
hit is a close up of my fith injector. if you look just ubove it on my shassy you can see where i have earthed my 2-bar map sensor i just scratched off the paint and bolted it down
this picture just shows you the hole where i ran all my wires through
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18th October 2009, 15:13
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hmm lost half the pics  lol
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18th October 2009, 15:27
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oh so this was the big plan lol
awsome will elp filter out alot
is there any way you can go into detail as regards to the oil lines to and from the turbo ?
and how to modiry th sump . basicly how you set up everything to do with oil
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18th October 2009, 15:32
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18th October 2009, 15:32
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A few pics taken from my progress thread
Cituning Garrett GT17 turbo, this turbo is also used on Saab's
Turbo outlet sizes
Little 10row oil cooler
Pico injectors, right is 226cc and left is 496cc, I have a set of 296cc taken from a Clio172 but havent got any pics of those, apart from the colour of the collar there is no difference.
Hope the above is of some help to the guys who are boosting.
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18th October 2009, 15:50
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more pics the better as said any questions make a separate thread as this one is purely for guide and ref pics only. Plus the big guide thread is the place to ask more questions but have a search of the forum as most of what we covered has been asked its just some people are to lazy and slack arsed to move their mouse and press a few buttons to look for what they need
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18th October 2009, 16:31
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great thread guys!
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18th October 2009, 17:45
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cituning/miltek manin from cituning turbo kit, can be mixed and matched with other parts as i am, will take t2/25/28 turbo chargers

this is a sigcon 3 unit...used with the mf2 and fifth injector set up also know as a signal modifier helps the stock ecu understand boost, meant to have a blue cover on but i never got one when i bought it from gav  notable diffrence from a sigcon 2 as it has 2 multi cables coming from it as opposed to 1 also autogauges boost gauge reading psi
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18th October 2009, 19:08
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18th October 2009, 21:07
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Bcup, you have there somthing that will quite special when its done, Nice work
How do the 496cc injectors workout for idle & driveability?
Does your turbo not have any water cooling feeds?
ManC
PS: Get that filter replaced and get it moved to a higher position thus avoiding road muck.
Last edited by manc; 18th October 2009 at 21:20.
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18th October 2009, 22:56
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Quote:
Originally Posted by manc
Bcup, you have there somthing that will quite special when its done, Nice work
How do the 496cc injectors workout for idle & driveability?
Does your turbo not have any water cooling feeds?
ManC
PS: Get that filter replaced and get it moved to a higher position thus avoiding road muck. 
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Thanks a lot ManC.
Andy just tune the idling on the predator today (with the patiente we all know that Andy has) and the car is idling perfectly. In the road I don't know because I don't try it yet. Going to try the car this week on the road and then I let you know.
No, the turbo don't have water cooling.
As for the air filter I only put it down there for try the car.
Maybe after I will move it to a higher place.
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8th November 2009, 14:50
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Very good Bcup
The saxo runs in portugal ?
Abraços
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8th November 2009, 20:23
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8th November 2009, 20:26
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How bhp make you 106 Gti with this kit ?
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8th November 2009, 20:30
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never actually had it rolling roaded, mf2 was setup live mapped rather than on rollers. estimate approx 200-210bhp due to the way it performed on track
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15th September 2010, 14:13
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Geznay
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sorry to re open and bother you ... but what manifold is that? ... does any 1 know what standard manifolds i can use that fit the vts head and are simple enough to adapt a turbo to ? ... i relli dont want to be cutting my 4-2-1
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15th September 2010, 19:42
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Originally Posted by ryansaxo2010
sorry to re open and bother you ... but what manifold is that? ... does any 1 know what standard manifolds i can use that fit the vts head and are simple enough to adapt a turbo to ? ... i relli dont want to be cutting my 4-2-1
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It says its a custom made manifold.
As for what standard manifold you have already asked this in other threads and it was answered.
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