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17th July 2010, 12:07
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Drivebelt Help!! ASAP...
Hi Guys,
I am hoping that this can be answered quickly as I am right now up to my nuts in VTS bits, spanners and Haynes books!  My drive belt broke yesterday just pulling into my drive, when I have jacked the car up today the large pully at the bottom is running free. I dont know if it is meant to be loose and the belt holds it to the centre section which is attached to what seems to be the engine block or if the pully has broken loose? There is 3 small nuts and 1 huge centre nut. They are all fixed in place its just the groved pully wheel that is loose.
Any quick answers would be a massive help.
Cheers:y
Lem
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17th July 2010, 16:17
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the crank pulley should be one piece, an it should not free wheel, does it appear to be broken in any way?
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17th July 2010, 16:35
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Thanks for the reply. I have done some research and the drive belt pully is in 2 parts with a rubber or plastic washer inbetween. The washer has gone allowing the pully to seperate and free wheel causing the belt to break.
Thanks
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17th July 2010, 16:51
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the rubber gone in between the pulleys?
mine did this a while back and i had to replace it.
the whole thing was separate from the crank pulley and just moved around at its own accord.
easy enough job to do, but the pulley isnt cheap
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R.I.P SCOTTY, YOU WILL BE MISSED BY SO MANY. TAKE IT EASY UP THERE, UNTIL WE MEET AGAIN.
THERE WILL ALWAYS BE A SPARE SEAT FOR YOU TO RIDE SHOTGUN AROUND THE TRACK WITH ME IN THE 'PIECE OF SHIT SAXO' LMBO IT AINT NO BEEMER OR GOLF, BUT IT WILL BE FAST A FOOK, I PROMISE
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17th July 2010, 16:53
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dont mess with the centre bolt, im sure you loosent he 3 small bolts and work the pulleys loose, i just got a big wedge in there and worked it off, it was tight, seemed as if it wasnt moving, but a few gentle taps and its started to come off.
i think the large bolt in the middle is for you crank belt, no need to loosen that.
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R.I.P SCOTTY, YOU WILL BE MISSED BY SO MANY. TAKE IT EASY UP THERE, UNTIL WE MEET AGAIN.
THERE WILL ALWAYS BE A SPARE SEAT FOR YOU TO RIDE SHOTGUN AROUND THE TRACK WITH ME IN THE 'PIECE OF SHIT SAXO' LMBO IT AINT NO BEEMER OR GOLF, BUT IT WILL BE FAST A FOOK, I PROMISE
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17th July 2010, 17:07
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as above, remove the 13mm bolts and change the pulley, its quite a common failing
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17th July 2010, 17:31
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Thanks for all the advice and support guys! £50 for a new part! took the old one off and cleaned up all the spacing screws and bolts to make it easier to fit the new one later. I am looking at scrap yards now I know to look for VTS only as the VTR and any other Saxo pulleys are different.
Yep, not touched the cenre bolt just unscrewed the 3 bolts, with it been in 2 parts it was tricky to remove at first but like you said boz a few taps and off she came.
Cheers
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17th July 2010, 18:46
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yip, it easy when its a full item, its a TW@ when they part lol
you need a vts one, vtr one is different.
they are canny expensive, i got a shock when eurocarparts gave me a quote.
i just robbed one off the spare VTS engine i have in the garage ;D lol, quick fix.
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R.I.P SCOTTY, YOU WILL BE MISSED BY SO MANY. TAKE IT EASY UP THERE, UNTIL WE MEET AGAIN.
THERE WILL ALWAYS BE A SPARE SEAT FOR YOU TO RIDE SHOTGUN AROUND THE TRACK WITH ME IN THE 'PIECE OF SHIT SAXO' LMBO IT AINT NO BEEMER OR GOLF, BUT IT WILL BE FAST A FOOK, I PROMISE
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18th July 2010, 06:38
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Will a pug GTi be the same as the VTS if I can get find a pug engine rather than a VTS engine?
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18th July 2010, 06:58
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Ja, the pulleys are the same
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19th July 2010, 05:29
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Olly
Ja, the pulleys are the same
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Thanks Olly
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20th July 2010, 19:20
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Frigg Me!
Ok Guys, update..
I could not find a second hand drive belt pulley so had to bite the bullet and get one from Citroen £150 inc VAT! Ouch..
So having strugled fitting the the pulley for 3 hours. I dont know if that is normal but it was a real bitch to get past the chassis until I worked out to give it a whack with wood and a hammer.
Any way that was on and I was looking forward to getting the job done until tonight I was trying to fit the belt. It just does not fit, I have spoken to people and they are telling me that it is the right belt.
I have a VTS with NO Air Con. the belt that was on was a 5780, the belt I have is a 5778 and it will just not fit there is not enough slack to get it over all of the pulleys like it says in the Haynes manuel.
Is this the wrong belt? am I a total spaf and missing some thing? I really need some advice and help guys I have spent a full day almost trying to get this working and people say it takes 45mins!
Cheers
Lem
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22nd July 2010, 08:13
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Belt
Guys, still having issues with the drive belt! how much play should there be when the belt is fitted? The 775 has about 3 cm of play when pushed down? is this ok?
Cheers
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