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20th August 2011, 00:37
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as a current exhaust thread here we go, first post so hi guys!
Been offered a 1.4 saxo (mk1) at a silly price from a mate that i know looks after his cars and is in good nick so i shall be a saxo owner before the weekend is over!
Now it has the standard exhaust on it at the moment - i am going to be looking into putting a new (full) system on it - problem is, im a bit lost. I want a raspy sound that bangs and pops - my MGB sebring track car screams but has a deeper sound (not that i would dare put the race system on a sax!), i want something that is a lighter rasp that pops and bangs (im sure you are all aware of the note i am looking for). what do you guys recomend?
I am new to french cars (car history has been seat, nissan, BMW, MG and holden although i had a clio that was kept completely standard) so will i be able to use a vts manifold and system? I would persume so as arent the main engine differeces that the vts is a bored out (obviously from factory) 1.4 with a 16v head on it?
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20th August 2011, 09:34
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8v exhaust port spacing is different so you need an 8v manifold.
If you want to maximise power and get a truely great sound then as DanT mentioned.
The full Supersprint system with Supersprint manifold and Race Exhaust is rather nice.
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20th August 2011, 09:38
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gazer
I got a piper 3" straight through get pops and bangs, mainly more when the engine is higher up the rev range or when exhaust is hot then does it at low revs alot 
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The piper has an inch and a half of extra silencer than the KR Backbox. When I designed it I wanted a smooth bend so had to lengthen the pipe at back at the expense of noise reduction.
Sounds to me like the car in question is fuelling very nicely or its not doing something on overrun.
Maybe some longer duration 1321708 camshafts are needed to get fuel into the exhaust
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20th August 2011, 15:57
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Quote:
Originally Posted by KamRacing
8v exhaust port spacing is different so you need an 8v manifold.
If you want to maximise power and get a truely great sound then as DanT mentioned.
The full Supersprint system with Supersprint manifold and Race Exhaust is rather nice.
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Thanks,
So the VTR manifold will fit? I am all for a bit of fettling but I think i shall leave the TS mani for the 16v head in that case!!
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20th August 2011, 16:00
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Location: Jarrow
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Car(s): Saxo VTR Mk 1
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Supersprint "2 is by far the best, raspy, pops with suitable mods
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20th August 2011, 22:50
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Car(s): LY R26
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omp inox has to be best sounding imo
love the sound of mine combined with piper manifold
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21st August 2011, 23:16
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#27
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Car(s): Saxo flat arch vtr engine
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cherry bomb back box
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22nd August 2011, 17:56
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Location: Leicester LE3
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Car(s): mk2 ph3'd saxo VTR
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Quote:
Originally Posted by samclose
cherry bomb back box 
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GAY - nuff said:-)
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22nd August 2011, 17:58
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#29
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Location: Leicester LE3
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Car(s): mk2 ph3'd saxo VTR
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supersprint 2" all the way. swapped my crap powerflow for a full system yesterday and my god it sounds 5000 times better, moves a hell of a lot quicker too! Thats on my 118bhp cammed vtr.
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22nd August 2011, 18:17
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Quote:
Originally Posted by KamRacing
The piper has an inch and a half of extra silencer than the KR Backbox. When I designed it I wanted a smooth bend so had to lengthen the pipe at back at the expense of noise reduction.
Sounds to me like the car in question is fuelling very nicely or its not doing something on overrun.
Maybe some longer duration 1321708 camshafts are needed to get fuel into the exhaust 
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The car does seem to run very week indeed, no misfeing or nothing, but if you do stand behind the car and rev it can smell the fuel slightly but I guess that's just because of having no cat, would those run wothout a remap? Think one of my stem seals is bit slightly wearing get the odd puff of blue smoke when start it up from cold every know and then wanna sort that out first but dunno who to take it to :/
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22nd August 2011, 18:18
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I dont think theres a better flowing exhaust than the supersprint and the KAM Racing ones.
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22nd August 2011, 18:23
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#32
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Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Ascot
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Car(s): Mint 106 rallye,
Saxo VTR
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raceland 4-2-1 supersprint/kam racing centre pipe kam racing back box! best ever! fact!
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22nd August 2011, 21:58
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#33
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Location: Leicester LE3
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Car(s): mk2 ph3'd saxo VTR
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raceland 4/2/1 wrapped - supersprint race pipe + decat - 2" supersprint backbox.
Bet they sound nearly the same TBH.
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24th August 2011, 20:38
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saxsport 2" or scorpion 2.5 2" exit
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